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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

 

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

05 Sep 2015
07:55:56pm

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I should be able to find this but for some reason have not been able to locate it. A bit of help would be greatly appreciated. It is on pelure paper.

Thanks,

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michael78651

05 Sep 2015
08:17:12pm
re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Russia semi-postal, Scott #B15. Don't trim the edges as it was issued imperf. A major problem with this issue is......counterfeits are all over the place. I don't know if the markings at the lower right will help determine is the stamp is genuine or not. Maybe someone else familiar with this issue can help further.

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

05 Sep 2015
08:41:49pm

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Right there in front of me all the time. Thank you very much - it's an interesting series.

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michael78651

05 Sep 2015
10:32:04pm
re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Nelson, do you think that the printer marks on the right side help ID this stamp as genuine?

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06 Sep 2015
05:00:26am
re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

You'll also notice another difference in the two illustrated stamps. Here is my (sold as as a gum-free reprint) stamp with the distinction circled.

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That chimney is outlined in Nelson's picture, but shaded in Carol's and mine. It has no effect on value.

I am a trimmer of imperforates, although the triangular mark might stay your scissors. After all, you are only tidying up the scissor-work of the Russian counter-clerk in 1921 - he has no better claim to authenticity than me. Mind you, I trim responsibly...

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nl1947

06 Sep 2015
07:15:17am
re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Of the dozens I have seen of the 3 colors - none have had that mark.

Overall the most distinguishing feature of the forgery is that it is better than the original. Not all forgeries are crude.
The details are much clearer.

Forgery on top
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Edited: When looking for forgery details, it is important not to be fooled by plate flaws, features of plating positions or inking (over or under)
Whatever the detail - it needs to be consistent - hence the challenge

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

06 Sep 2015
07:53:21am

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re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Thanks for all the information - this club has an incredible depth of knowledge.

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

05 Sep 2015
07:55:56pm

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I should be able to find this but for some reason have not been able to locate it. A bit of help would be greatly appreciated. It is on pelure paper.

Thanks,

CarolImage Not Found

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michael78651

05 Sep 2015
08:17:12pm

re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Russia semi-postal, Scott #B15. Don't trim the edges as it was issued imperf. A major problem with this issue is......counterfeits are all over the place. I don't know if the markings at the lower right will help determine is the stamp is genuine or not. Maybe someone else familiar with this issue can help further.

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Webpaper

In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

05 Sep 2015
08:41:49pm

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re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Right there in front of me all the time. Thank you very much - it's an interesting series.

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michael78651

05 Sep 2015
10:32:04pm

re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Nelson, do you think that the printer marks on the right side help ID this stamp as genuine?

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Guthrum

06 Sep 2015
05:00:26am

re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

You'll also notice another difference in the two illustrated stamps. Here is my (sold as as a gum-free reprint) stamp with the distinction circled.

Image Not Found

That chimney is outlined in Nelson's picture, but shaded in Carol's and mine. It has no effect on value.

I am a trimmer of imperforates, although the triangular mark might stay your scissors. After all, you are only tidying up the scissor-work of the Russian counter-clerk in 1921 - he has no better claim to authenticity than me. Mind you, I trim responsibly...

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nl1947

06 Sep 2015
07:15:17am

re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Of the dozens I have seen of the 3 colors - none have had that mark.

Overall the most distinguishing feature of the forgery is that it is better than the original. Not all forgeries are crude.
The details are much clearer.

Forgery on top
Image Not Found
Image Not Found

Edited: When looking for forgery details, it is important not to be fooled by plate flaws, features of plating positions or inking (over or under)
Whatever the detail - it needs to be consistent - hence the challenge

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Webpaper

In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

06 Sep 2015
07:53:21am

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re: Unknown - perhaps Finland or Russia ?

Thanks for all the information - this club has an incredible depth of knowledge.

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