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I have only heard the term applied to stamps of the United Kingdom and its associated areas. Pre decimals refers to stamps with denominations in pence and shillings; decimals in, well, decimals (100 pennies = 1 pound (UK) or 1 dollar (Australia, NZ). I am sure someone can, and will provide a more detail answer.
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yo, dog,
decimals and pre-decimals refers to a period. Wait, that doesn't clarify anything, now does it?
Let me start again. Once upon a time, Englad had currency base 12 (ever wonder why the first stamp had 240 stamps instead of 200?). Later, they converted to base 10 (latin for ten is decca; and from that decade, decadent {ten teeth}, decapage {very short book}, and decimal). So, what's really being said is that pre-decimal period (sorry, decimal, dot, and period all seem the same) is measured in 12 pennies to the shilling; afterwards, 100 pennies to the pound.
Perhaps a more learned GB specialist will correct my math, or Bobby may merely slap my wrist ten times
Dekka David
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The first GB decimal stamps were issued on 17 June 1970 - four large-format high-value Machins at 10p, 20p, 50p and £1. Note that the £ sign remained the same both before and after decimalisation, but the pence sign changed from 'd' (Latin, denarius) to 'p' (English, pence). Since then, as noted above, the UK and associated areas have maintained this system and presumably will do so unless at some future date we convert to Euros (which seems unlikely).
The last GB pre-decimals were a set of 5 'Literary Anniversaries' issued 3 June 1970 at 5d. (four stamps) and 1s.6d. The latter denomination shows the base-12 pre-decimal system: it is actually one and a half shillings or, as we would say, 'one shilling and sixpence', or 'one and sixpence' or just 'one and six'. It could be written, as on the stamp, '1/6'.
A simple way to convert old money to new was to remove the oblique and divide by two: thus 1s.6d, 1/6, converted to 8p.
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Hi guys,
In Australia 1966 was the change over year - Up to 1966, Pounds shillings and pence (Pre-decimal) - 1966 and later Dollars and cents (Decimal).
Some (Most) of the 1965 (pre-decimal stamps) were re-issued with the values changed to the Dollar equivalent in 1966.
Steve.
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1965 pre-decimal and 1966 decimal stamps of the same design.
Australia switched to decimal currency on February 14, 1966 (St. Valentines Day).
£1 = $2
10/- = $1
5/- = 50c
2/- = 20c
12p = 10c
1/- = 10c
6d = 5c
3d = 2c
2d = 2c
1d - 1c
½d - 0
The Australian government allowed both pre-decimal and decimal currency to be used together for two years and after 1968 the former currency was officially phased out.
The last issues of the 1965 series (birds and Navigators) were re-issued under the new currency.
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Can some one tell me what decimals and pre decimals are and were they are located on a stamp. Thanks for any info
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23 Aug 2015
03:19:49pm
re: Question about decimals
I have only heard the term applied to stamps of the United Kingdom and its associated areas. Pre decimals refers to stamps with denominations in pence and shillings; decimals in, well, decimals (100 pennies = 1 pound (UK) or 1 dollar (Australia, NZ). I am sure someone can, and will provide a more detail answer.
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re: Question about decimals
yo, dog,
decimals and pre-decimals refers to a period. Wait, that doesn't clarify anything, now does it?
Let me start again. Once upon a time, Englad had currency base 12 (ever wonder why the first stamp had 240 stamps instead of 200?). Later, they converted to base 10 (latin for ten is decca; and from that decade, decadent {ten teeth}, decapage {very short book}, and decimal). So, what's really being said is that pre-decimal period (sorry, decimal, dot, and period all seem the same) is measured in 12 pennies to the shilling; afterwards, 100 pennies to the pound.
Perhaps a more learned GB specialist will correct my math, or Bobby may merely slap my wrist ten times
Dekka David
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re: Question about decimals
The first GB decimal stamps were issued on 17 June 1970 - four large-format high-value Machins at 10p, 20p, 50p and £1. Note that the £ sign remained the same both before and after decimalisation, but the pence sign changed from 'd' (Latin, denarius) to 'p' (English, pence). Since then, as noted above, the UK and associated areas have maintained this system and presumably will do so unless at some future date we convert to Euros (which seems unlikely).
The last GB pre-decimals were a set of 5 'Literary Anniversaries' issued 3 June 1970 at 5d. (four stamps) and 1s.6d. The latter denomination shows the base-12 pre-decimal system: it is actually one and a half shillings or, as we would say, 'one shilling and sixpence', or 'one and sixpence' or just 'one and six'. It could be written, as on the stamp, '1/6'.
A simple way to convert old money to new was to remove the oblique and divide by two: thus 1s.6d, 1/6, converted to 8p.
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re: Question about decimals
Hi guys,
In Australia 1966 was the change over year - Up to 1966, Pounds shillings and pence (Pre-decimal) - 1966 and later Dollars and cents (Decimal).
Some (Most) of the 1965 (pre-decimal stamps) were re-issued with the values changed to the Dollar equivalent in 1966.
Steve.
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re: Question about decimals
1965 pre-decimal and 1966 decimal stamps of the same design.
Australia switched to decimal currency on February 14, 1966 (St. Valentines Day).
£1 = $2
10/- = $1
5/- = 50c
2/- = 20c
12p = 10c
1/- = 10c
6d = 5c
3d = 2c
2d = 2c
1d - 1c
½d - 0
The Australian government allowed both pre-decimal and decimal currency to be used together for two years and after 1968 the former currency was officially phased out.
The last issues of the 1965 series (birds and Navigators) were re-issued under the new currency.
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