I'm away from home at the moment so I haven't my catalogues to hand but to me it looks like a GB postmark for Birmingham.
There is a circular red postmark with the letter A under the B62 postmark and that could be a GB colonial or BPO franking.
This question was asked in the context of another post a few months ago; I can't recall but I think a suggestion was made that this could be a company cancel.
Peter
Kim,
The B62 has already been established as Hong Kong. This is the most common barred numeral cancel of the colony.
It is the red barred marking underneath that has defied explanation and yes, this may well be a colonial cancellation. However, no reference to it has so far been found in the many publications that members have, either on this board or on at least one other.
It is more likely that it's identity may emerge in old auction catalogues. There is another option of course; making contact with the Hong Kong Study Circle or similar body. There may be a chance that this has been seen before and published in one of their regular bulletins.
New research tends not to appear in the public domain until such time as someone writes a new book, or updates reference books like F W Webb's Hong Kong and the Treaty Ports of China and Japan. However, as the last revision of Webb was in 1991 (IIRC), these things take a lonnnnnng time.
I am a member of the HKSC and attend most London meetings, and it is a marking that the habituees of the society do not recognise either. And it has been an open question on the www.hongkongstudycircle.com site for over a year...
I have dozens of old auction catalogues and nothing like it can I find. I did ask months ago about it on this site but in the Asia/other section, but reposted hoping a new appeal might create some more leads from collectors of other countries that might recognise it as being a cancel from their area of collecting...
amazed that no one here has been able to help on this
Will,
If you've had no joy with the help of the Hong Kong Study Circle, then I'm surprised that you're surprised that no one can help here.
One further suggestion, which I would imagine you have already pursued, is contacting The Hong Kong Philatelic Society.
In the back of my mind, I seem to recall there being another study group in the US but that was back in the early 90's. Can't remember any details though.
Despite your frustration, look at the upside; you no doubt have a very rare, possibly unique marking, like the Java and Spanish Philippine markings that were on eBay last week (which I guess you saw). But that is probably no consolation.
Personally I think it is a cancel applied abroad or on board ship ( most likely) - I was hoping that someone with expertise in say the postal history of Africa, India, USA, Indian Ocean or South America, or Paquebots etc might recognise it.
and yes, saw them and was the underbidder on both - ugh!
All I think of is "The Scarlet Letter " but am sure that is of no help whatsoever.......
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please excuse this bump - but desparate for an answer
HK stamp 1863 8c Yellow buff with standard B62 cancel - over a red barred circle cancel with a Capital A - this red cancel is what I am trying to ID - please help I have had no luck in finding any information... The B62 is of course HK so common and well known.,
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
I'm away from home at the moment so I haven't my catalogues to hand but to me it looks like a GB postmark for Birmingham.
There is a circular red postmark with the letter A under the B62 postmark and that could be a GB colonial or BPO franking.
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
This question was asked in the context of another post a few months ago; I can't recall but I think a suggestion was made that this could be a company cancel.
Peter
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
Kim,
The B62 has already been established as Hong Kong. This is the most common barred numeral cancel of the colony.
It is the red barred marking underneath that has defied explanation and yes, this may well be a colonial cancellation. However, no reference to it has so far been found in the many publications that members have, either on this board or on at least one other.
It is more likely that it's identity may emerge in old auction catalogues. There is another option of course; making contact with the Hong Kong Study Circle or similar body. There may be a chance that this has been seen before and published in one of their regular bulletins.
New research tends not to appear in the public domain until such time as someone writes a new book, or updates reference books like F W Webb's Hong Kong and the Treaty Ports of China and Japan. However, as the last revision of Webb was in 1991 (IIRC), these things take a lonnnnnng time.
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
I am a member of the HKSC and attend most London meetings, and it is a marking that the habituees of the society do not recognise either. And it has been an open question on the www.hongkongstudycircle.com site for over a year...
I have dozens of old auction catalogues and nothing like it can I find. I did ask months ago about it on this site but in the Asia/other section, but reposted hoping a new appeal might create some more leads from collectors of other countries that might recognise it as being a cancel from their area of collecting...
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
amazed that no one here has been able to help on this
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
Will,
If you've had no joy with the help of the Hong Kong Study Circle, then I'm surprised that you're surprised that no one can help here.
One further suggestion, which I would imagine you have already pursued, is contacting The Hong Kong Philatelic Society.
In the back of my mind, I seem to recall there being another study group in the US but that was back in the early 90's. Can't remember any details though.
Despite your frustration, look at the upside; you no doubt have a very rare, possibly unique marking, like the Java and Spanish Philippine markings that were on eBay last week (which I guess you saw). But that is probably no consolation.
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
Personally I think it is a cancel applied abroad or on board ship ( most likely) - I was hoping that someone with expertise in say the postal history of Africa, India, USA, Indian Ocean or South America, or Paquebots etc might recognise it.
and yes, saw them and was the underbidder on both - ugh!
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
All I think of is "The Scarlet Letter " but am sure that is of no help whatsoever.......
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
bump
re: Anyone able to ID this red A cancellation?
please excuse this bump - but desparate for an answer