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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Chile Stamp I Think

 

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adam31415926
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24 May 2015
12:00:43am
This was in a packet of Chile stamps. I can't find it in Scott and need help.

Thanks.

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michael78651

24 May 2015
12:04:48am
re: Chile Stamp I Think

Chilly is right. You're very cold on that one. Try Austria.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

24 May 2015
09:30:22pm
re: Chile Stamp I Think

The key, Adam is the value "Kreuzer" (sp?) used in Austria around the turn of the century (1900)

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24 May 2015
09:43:17pm
re: Chile Stamp I Think

It could be Scott #52 Austria


Kais. Koeni. what ever it says means Emperor King, (my German is a little rusty) The post mark covers the rest. The lengthy titles they have for royals. It's too much of a mouthful. What's wrong with just plain King Bob or something?

On a side note My grandma loved watching the German movie Sissi about the Empress Elizabeth of Austria. The whole thing was in German and mom and Grandma would translate what I didn't know.

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bamra1

26 May 2015
03:41:53pm
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"The lengthy titles they have for royals. It's too much of a mouthful. What's wrong with just plain King Bob or something?"



The point is that he was Emperor of Austria AND King of Hungary.

After the Hungarian revolution against the Hapsburgs was put down the Hungarians were given the Henry Ford option that they could choose anyone they liked as King - provided it was the Emperor or Austria.

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30 May 2015
09:51:55pm
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Actually the Hungarians did quite well in the Compromise of 1867 and the dual monarchy was the path to Hungary's independence, though it was painful.

The Austrian defeat at Königgrätz which ended the Austro-Prussian war ensured that northern Germany would be the focus of (German) power under Bismark going forward rather than southern under the House of Habsburg. Bismark was influential in pressuring Austria to accept Hungary's demands and Elisabeth was instrumental in helping achieve those ends with influence from Andrassy. Bismark was quoted as saying "What does Hungary demand?" at the first meeting with Hungarian statesman Ferenc Deak. Though possibly Elisabeth was manipulated by the prime minister, she apparently had a genuine affection for Hungary and the feeling was mutual. Not to be confused with St Elisabeth, but charitable nonetheless.

The Austrians actually conceded to nearly all the Magyar's demands made prior to Koniggratz. The independence of their government, economics. etc. eventually led to their breakup due to Nationalist elements gaining power and the fact that only 41% of Hungary was Magyar at the time. At least half the Kingdom was comprised of non-Magyar populations in Transylvania, Slovenia, Croatia, Slovakia, the Banat and Bacska, Carpatho-Ukraine and Hungary itself. This inevitably led to its severe reduction in territory after WWI and greatly diminished influence in Europe.


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adam31415926

24 May 2015
12:00:43am

This was in a packet of Chile stamps. I can't find it in Scott and need help.

Thanks.

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michael78651

24 May 2015
12:04:48am

re: Chile Stamp I Think

Chilly is right. You're very cold on that one. Try Austria.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
24 May 2015
09:30:22pm

re: Chile Stamp I Think

The key, Adam is the value "Kreuzer" (sp?) used in Austria around the turn of the century (1900)

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

Wanting to bring the joy of stamp collecting to younger generations
24 May 2015
09:43:17pm

re: Chile Stamp I Think

It could be Scott #52 Austria


Kais. Koeni. what ever it says means Emperor King, (my German is a little rusty) The post mark covers the rest. The lengthy titles they have for royals. It's too much of a mouthful. What's wrong with just plain King Bob or something?

On a side note My grandma loved watching the German movie Sissi about the Empress Elizabeth of Austria. The whole thing was in German and mom and Grandma would translate what I didn't know.

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bamra1

26 May 2015
03:41:53pm

re: Chile Stamp I Think

"The lengthy titles they have for royals. It's too much of a mouthful. What's wrong with just plain King Bob or something?"



The point is that he was Emperor of Austria AND King of Hungary.

After the Hungarian revolution against the Hapsburgs was put down the Hungarians were given the Henry Ford option that they could choose anyone they liked as King - provided it was the Emperor or Austria.

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HungaryForStamps

30 May 2015
09:51:55pm

re: Chile Stamp I Think

Actually the Hungarians did quite well in the Compromise of 1867 and the dual monarchy was the path to Hungary's independence, though it was painful.

The Austrian defeat at Königgrätz which ended the Austro-Prussian war ensured that northern Germany would be the focus of (German) power under Bismark going forward rather than southern under the House of Habsburg. Bismark was influential in pressuring Austria to accept Hungary's demands and Elisabeth was instrumental in helping achieve those ends with influence from Andrassy. Bismark was quoted as saying "What does Hungary demand?" at the first meeting with Hungarian statesman Ferenc Deak. Though possibly Elisabeth was manipulated by the prime minister, she apparently had a genuine affection for Hungary and the feeling was mutual. Not to be confused with St Elisabeth, but charitable nonetheless.

The Austrians actually conceded to nearly all the Magyar's demands made prior to Koniggratz. The independence of their government, economics. etc. eventually led to their breakup due to Nationalist elements gaining power and the fact that only 41% of Hungary was Magyar at the time. At least half the Kingdom was comprised of non-Magyar populations in Transylvania, Slovenia, Croatia, Slovakia, the Banat and Bacska, Carpatho-Ukraine and Hungary itself. This inevitably led to its severe reduction in territory after WWI and greatly diminished influence in Europe.


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