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General Philatelic/Identify This? : French Telephone Stamps

 

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01 May 2015
07:47:50am

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I'm hoping someone has a thought on these. I am pretty sure that the 30 & 50 are cut French Telephone stamps but what are the others? I am guessing maybe telephone cut squares but a search on the internet does not find such a thing. I don't have a Higgins & Gage catalog to check out. I seriously doubt I have anything rare, just wondering what they are. Thanks

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01 May 2015
11:59:52am
re: French Telephone Stamps

Those appear to have been cut/trimmed? Check out the section on France Telephone Stamps (below the section on France Telegraph Stamps): France Telephone Stamps

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01 May 2015
02:16:54pm
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Interesting Thankyou

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01 May 2015
02:22:32pm

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They are trimmed, but the highest denomination I see in my Yvert is 3f. I saw an ebay listing for Yv 3-11 and they called it a complete set. There is no 60,6f or 19f in the set

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01 May 2015
03:31:02pm
re: French Telephone Stamps

For what it is worth
An 1896 Brunel catalog notes only a 25c, 50c, 1fr, 3fr, in an 1885 & 1888 issue with a ministerial name change and an additional 1891 30c for "nightime calls"
Followed by a series of overprints.
There is no mention of any additional proofs.

"La première émission 1885 porte les mots : Ministere des postes et des
télégraphes.
25 centimes bleu sur fond chamois.
50 centimes carmin — rose.
1 franc carmin — azuré.
3 franc — noir — vert.
En 1888, le ministère des postes étant supprimé, les émissions
portent simplement : Postes et télégraphes.
Les valeurs sont les memes.
En 1891, on crée une valeur de 30 centimes, noir sur lilas,
pour le service téléphonique de nuit."



There appears to be some inconsistencies between the 50 & 60c posted
Can you scan just the 60c

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01 May 2015
04:00:57pm
re: French Telephone Stamps

These are more likely mostly cut-outs from pneumatic post cards:

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There are many different rates and varieties. Higgins and Gage lists the 6fr red-orange and 19fr red orange as part of the 1944-47 set (#s 45-46).

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01 May 2015
05:15:06pm

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re: French Telephone Stamps

Thanks Roy! I kind of thought they were H&G listed

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01 May 2015
06:06:14pm
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Excellent examples, Roy!

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02 May 2015
10:01:02am
re: French Telephone Stamps

Greg they are listed in H&G as either Pneumatic Post and also under the section on local pmeumatic. The 6F red is H&G #45. The others are local Pneumatic post. Without the rest of the card they would take longer to ID

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02 May 2015
10:16:09am
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Greg after looking in H&G the first three could be cuts from telegraph stamps as well as local Pnuematic cards.

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17 Aug 2015
10:19:35pm
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In Paris operated a pneumatic telegraph system, similar to what department stores used to have for obtaining receipts for customers.
Cards with messages were sent by this pneumatic telegraph system all over Paris.
I have a booklet describing it, and a collection of these cards and cut-out stamps like yours. Other cities that operated these, I believe were Brussels, Munich and Berlin.
For a sideline you could look up the Dreyfus Case and how one of these cards proved his innocence.

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20 May 2016
09:45:55pm
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There is a booklet regarding these.

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20 May 2016
10:30:22pm
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The pneumatic network in Paris was quite remarkable, and lasted into the 1980s..1984 to be exact. I remember using it in the 1960s. A stamp was issued in 1966 to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Parisian Pneumatic system.

Here are some links of interest:

http://www.cix.co.uk/
mhayhurst/jdhayhurst/pneumatic/book.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_tube

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01 May 2015
07:47:50am

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I'm hoping someone has a thought on these. I am pretty sure that the 30 & 50 are cut French Telephone stamps but what are the others? I am guessing maybe telephone cut squares but a search on the internet does not find such a thing. I don't have a Higgins & Gage catalog to check out. I seriously doubt I have anything rare, just wondering what they are. Thanks

Greg

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01 May 2015
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Those appear to have been cut/trimmed? Check out the section on France Telephone Stamps (below the section on France Telegraph Stamps): France Telephone Stamps

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2010ccg

01 May 2015
02:16:54pm

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Interesting Thankyou

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01 May 2015
02:22:32pm

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They are trimmed, but the highest denomination I see in my Yvert is 3f. I saw an ebay listing for Yv 3-11 and they called it a complete set. There is no 60,6f or 19f in the set

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01 May 2015
03:31:02pm

re: French Telephone Stamps

For what it is worth
An 1896 Brunel catalog notes only a 25c, 50c, 1fr, 3fr, in an 1885 & 1888 issue with a ministerial name change and an additional 1891 30c for "nightime calls"
Followed by a series of overprints.
There is no mention of any additional proofs.

"La première émission 1885 porte les mots : Ministere des postes et des
télégraphes.
25 centimes bleu sur fond chamois.
50 centimes carmin — rose.
1 franc carmin — azuré.
3 franc — noir — vert.
En 1888, le ministère des postes étant supprimé, les émissions
portent simplement : Postes et télégraphes.
Les valeurs sont les memes.
En 1891, on crée une valeur de 30 centimes, noir sur lilas,
pour le service téléphonique de nuit."



There appears to be some inconsistencies between the 50 & 60c posted
Can you scan just the 60c

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01 May 2015
04:00:57pm

re: French Telephone Stamps

These are more likely mostly cut-outs from pneumatic post cards:

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There are many different rates and varieties. Higgins and Gage lists the 6fr red-orange and 19fr red orange as part of the 1944-47 set (#s 45-46).

Roy

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01 May 2015
05:15:06pm

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Thanks Roy! I kind of thought they were H&G listed

Greg

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01 May 2015
06:06:14pm

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Excellent examples, Roy!

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Macravenmad

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02 May 2015
10:01:02am

re: French Telephone Stamps

Greg they are listed in H&G as either Pneumatic Post and also under the section on local pmeumatic. The 6F red is H&G #45. The others are local Pneumatic post. Without the rest of the card they would take longer to ID

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02 May 2015
10:16:09am

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Greg after looking in H&G the first three could be cuts from telegraph stamps as well as local Pnuematic cards.

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stampchi

17 Aug 2015
10:19:35pm

re: French Telephone Stamps

In Paris operated a pneumatic telegraph system, similar to what department stores used to have for obtaining receipts for customers.
Cards with messages were sent by this pneumatic telegraph system all over Paris.
I have a booklet describing it, and a collection of these cards and cut-out stamps like yours. Other cities that operated these, I believe were Brussels, Munich and Berlin.
For a sideline you could look up the Dreyfus Case and how one of these cards proved his innocence.

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stampchi

20 May 2016
09:45:55pm

re: French Telephone Stamps

There is a booklet regarding these.

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Retired Consultant APS#186030
20 May 2016
10:30:22pm

re: French Telephone Stamps

The pneumatic network in Paris was quite remarkable, and lasted into the 1980s..1984 to be exact. I remember using it in the 1960s. A stamp was issued in 1966 to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Parisian Pneumatic system.

Here are some links of interest:

http://www.cix.co.uk/
mhayhurst/jdhayhurst/pneumatic/book.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_tube

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rrr...

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