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I Wonder how many of our UK members remember the Ian Allan "British Railways Locomotives".As a Kid (and still is a great passion of mine) train spotting,I also had a very nice collection of railway related stamps,which has now been disposed of.
I do still have hundreds of W/W covers and postcards though.
I was also a member of The Ian Allan Loco Spotters Club and still have my club badge.
When I got my fist job as a paper delivery boy one of the first things I bought was a copy of this book.It is about 25mm thick and has all the loco numbers for BR Standard and EX _W-D Loco's,and all shed allocations .
These books were the bees knees for any lad to have.
It was a sad day when Beeching got his hands on BR.For us trainspotters any way.
Brian ( I love locos)
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I've always been intrigued by trains, but not as much as by airliners. Here are two photos I took at the train museum in Prince George, BC, when I lived there.
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Hello Snowy
Ah.........The golden age of steam 
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I was also a GB train-spotter as a lad - always had Ian Allen books in my inside school blazer pocket. Lots of excitement at Kings Cross with those great iron horses. Still get excited by trains.... (ask the wife!!!!!!)
Did you buy the 24 mag series - History of Railways? I picked up two large binders for $2 at a thrift shop......still reading.
Heres a cover or 2 you might enjoy
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I have long told people that - if all they knew of their town or country was what they saw on TV - they would flee. Nonetheless, although I should have known better ...
I had fully absorbed the Brit TV message that Manchester was a post-apocalyptic disaster zone full of zombie junkies prowling abandoned factories full of drippy, broken water pipes ...
As my plane touched down, I saw a wooden platform aside the end of the runway, occupied by a half-dozen-plus folks with binoculars (and what I quickly realized were) airline schedules ...
They were plane-spotting.
I had a good laugh at myself, and I knew I'd survive my visit.
Cheers,
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Manchester is a wonderful place....Before the M62 came into existence I have been known in the course of business to venture from East to West over the Snake Pass through the most hideous weather. I was young and reckless but I managed to survive - just.
Occasionally I've spent many a long rainy hour down Bury New Road, and even ventured into the Arndale Centre if the mood was right.
But I digress
This is not a train stamp......close, but not that close
Clear the tracks for the City of Denver
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Ah.........The golden age of steam Big Grin.
I was also a GB train-spotter as a lad - always had Ian Allen books in my inside school blazer pocket. Lots of excitement at Kings Cross with those great iron horses. Still get excited by trains.... (ask the wife!!!!!!)
Did you buy the 24 mag series - History of Railways? I picked up two large binders for $2 at a thrift shop......still reading.
Ah London that was the place to be ,all the regions ,I used to live in North East Lincolnshire ,before moving to Australia.
Our railway was a dead end line Cleethorpes. My mate and I would cycle to Doncaster to get any decent numbers .Cabbed A4 seagull on Doncaster station.
Those were the days.still miss the soot and grime hanging out the carriage window on a cheap day excursion to London.
I have a friend in the UK who sends me out copies of railway magazines he picks up.
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This is a cover from my collection that I bought some years ago that was in a small accumulation. The cover itself is a little on the rough side, but, it is such a nice design, I couldn't help but to keep it 
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Here is a nice cover showing the front & back of an advert cover for the California Street Railway Company ca 1932. It was too nice to pass up
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I know Cleethorpes well. Before moving to NZ I lived in Spalding. (As a teen in the early 60's I played in a band at the Café Dansant, Cleethorpes and at a bar near the top of the pier - you might remember them?).
As lads we would bike 21 miles to Peterborough or Tallington for our train spotting. Cheap day fares from Spalding to Kings Cross (before Beeching). Also Spalding was quite a large junction in those days, so there were many trains all day long.
Not many people in Cleethorpes probably know this, but Cleethorpes Pier originally cost £8,000, and was financed by the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway (later the Great Central Railway). It was officially opened on August Bank Holiday Monday 1873.
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Nice cover Bujutsu
THanks for scanning
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Bujutsu,
Was the Standard Fuel Co cover postally used?
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Here's an interesting cover - just need a boat!
Stamps from 1999 125th Anniv of Taiping Malaysia set
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I remember going to Cleethorpes as a young lad and being fascinated by the fact that both railway station and gasworks appeared ( from a distance) to be on the beach!
I too was a railway enthusiast when steam was (just) still king. I lived in the West Riding of Yorkshire and the main traffic was coal. Our local line had 2 up and 2 down lines and had a seemingly endless procession of full and empty coal trains all day long intersperced with the odd general freight,local passenger and express trains.
However after a couple of weeks one had seen all the local locos and so trips further afield(in small groups aged about 11 - Mothers these days would have a fit !!), York and Doncaster for the East Coast main line and Crewe for the West Coast main line.
A typical BR anachronism was that one could not get a cheap day return from Dewsbury to Crewe, so for cheapness we would buy a cdr to Stalybridge - jump off the train and buy a cdr from Stalybridge to Stockport - get back on the same train (!), and on arrival at Stockport buy a cdr to Crewe ( but at least we had to change trains at Stockport !!). We had a Science Society at secondary school, and among other trips outings were arranged to the locomotive works at Doncaster and the brand new computerised freight marshalling yard at Healey Mills near Wakefield. I really started to lose interest when diesel traction became more prevalent and transferred my allegiance to buses ( and ended up working in the bus industry for nigh on 30 years - but that is a different story).
However when I am out and about I still lurk near the many preserved heritage railways that exist in the UK. Just to keep (vaguely) on topic it should be noted that part of the fund-raising efforts of these railways involve the carriage of covers containing railway letter stamps.
Ah - nostalgia is not what it used to be !
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My home town Cleethorpes,
And my other favorite.
Kings Cross
Always remember the ticket lady at New Clee (station before Cleethorpes)She would give me cheap day returns to Kings Cross even when it wasn't a cheap day.
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Received this from capestampman today. This is a beautiful stamp.
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Hey...I won this train envelope right here on Stamporama approvals.. Number 2
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Here is a postcard from my collection with a nice Aberdeen & Miles City Railroad Post Office cancellation, for those of you who enjoy trains.
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A slightly different perspective...
James M. Hamilton resided in the small town of Lynn, Indiana, where I grew up. A descendant of his, late in life, apparently left some postal history items with Dad because his own family members weren't interested. This calling card was among those items.
Mr. Hamilton became a mail clerk in 1882 when the Columbus, Springfield & Indianapolis R.P.O. was initiated in 1882 over the newly completed Indianapolis, Bloomington & Western Railway that ran between Columbus, Ohio, and Indianapolis via Lynn.
The RPO became the Columbus & Indianapolis RPO in 1888 and then the Springfield & Indianapolis RPO in 1889. That RPO was in existence from 1889 to 1949.
A county history was published in 1914 and noted that Mr. Hamilton, then either 69 or 70 years of age, was still working on that mail route.
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Here is a train/tunnel/boat themed card received in the mail by my Grand Dad back in 1907.
Eventually, instead of a tunnel, they built a bridge.
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Very unique postcard, Dennis/Benque - I love it!
Thanks for showing it!
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Hi Randy,
I'm glad you like it too. I was really thrilled when Mom dug it out of an old box of memorabilia, and handed it to me "for the stamp".
I try to avoid the insensitivity to ordinary things around us, and save anything which I believe may be of familial, historical, or monetary value in future.
The expression "price wise, and value ignorant" seems widespread in these days of Wal-Mart, so I try to see things from a different slant.
I've made the ferry trip across the waters in the postcard, many times; but not since the early 60's,and I've never seen the bridge. Once, my Mom and Brother and I took the train from Montreal to Summerside PEI, and we floated over the waters of the Northumberland Straits on the MV Abegweit (Now the Columbia Yacht Club Clubship in Chicago). The ferry took about 1 hour to make the crossing, so plenty of time for a couple of young lads to run around the ship.
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"Ah.........The golden age of steam"
This just on BBC news, maybe we can see them run again on a regular schedule.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-39581712
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I think this is a rare view. It shows the interior of a US Railway Post Office (RPO) mail car that operated on the P. C. C. & St. Louis Railway as the Springfield and Indianapolis RPO. The photo was taken in December of 1910 and the car was lying on its side following a train wreck east of Indianapolis. I could find no local info about the wreck, but the Post Office Department later reported this was one of 446 wrecks that year involving the Railway Mail Service. 27 employees died and 98 were seriously injured in those wrecks. From my reading, it appears the POD was slow to force the railroads to switch from wood to steel construction of the mail cars, but then Congress got involved in 1910. My reading also indicates the POD was an awful employer back then. Some nasty work conditions and brutal work rules.
I've posted this postcard to my Flickr project and this is the link.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hoosier_recollections/34017600666/in/dateposted/
I find it difficult to orient myself to view the interior of a mail car on its side. So, besides the close-up view, I created a second image of the postcard that I rotated 90° so that the floor is at the bottom of that view. You'll find the link to the rotated view down near the bottom of the description on the Flickr page. When you go to that page showing the rotated view, there are also links near the bottom of that page to two close-ups of the rotated view.
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I just discovered a great site for identifying Locomotives. Although in German.
Here is the link.
http://www.albert-gieseler.de/dampf_de/tables/lokreihe0.shtml
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Here is another postcard in my collection, purchased from an antiques store, showing five steam engines pulling and pushing a train through the mountains of Utah. This was mailed from Salt Lake City, Utah, USA to Des Moines, Iowa, USA on the 6th of July, 1914. For all of you train lovers in the club, enjoy!
Linus
(Can you imagine how loud this train must have been as it passed by!)
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Some rail related pictorial cancels from the 1970s... don't forget that I was the producer of the ODDITY Cachet back then.
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Airplanes have always been "my thing" more than trains, but I recently came across this R.P.O. item on eBay:
The Rincon & Silver City R.P.O. served my home town, Silver City, New Mexico, into the early 1950s. This postal card was apparently postmarked and backstamped on each of two trips, one from Rincon to Silver City and the other from Silver City to Rincon.
The railway was apparently a spur line of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway; it ran from the main line near Deming, New Mexico, north to Silver City. Here's a photo of an ATSF locomotive that I took near the train station in Silver City late 1961 or early in 1962:
The trains that arrived in Silver City couldn’t turn around because there was no turntable there, so they had to be driven backwards to return to Rincon.
I remember the ATSF railway station; it was demolished in the late 1960s:
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I am not a collector of trains, but I do have these that caught
my eye so I held onto them;
2 of them because of the Michigan connection, the other just because
I liked the special cancel;
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In my previous post to this thread, I showed this postcard, picturing othe ATSF train station in Silver City, New Mexico, my home town:
To "compare and contrast," here's another ATSF station which was located at what was called Hanover Junction, about 12 miles east-northeast of Silver City:
The terminus of the track that heads to the left was the Empire Zinc Mine, site of the 1950 strike by Hispanic miners that became the longest strike in American history.
For any mining enthusiasts out there, here's a photograph of the Empire Zinc Mine's headframe:
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Wow! Love the Hanover Junction Station. Looks like it's an old rail car!
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" Looks like it's an old rail car!"
It is.
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I'd never thought about that "shed" being an old railway car, but I think Michael's right.
Another interesting thing about that image: the railroad spur that heads to the right was built for trains that transported copper ore from the huge open-pit Kennecott Copper mine at Santa Rita (in the 1950s & 1960s it was the biggest open-pit mine in the world) to nearby Hurley, where the Kennecott smelter was located (and where my grandparents lived — Grandad Ingraham was employed there as a machinist. Here's a photo of the mine; the real-photo postcard is a recent acquisition:
It's interesting to me that the huge amounts of ore that were removed from Santa Rita were all carried on that single railroad spur to Hurley. In the 1950s, ore was being removed from the pit by electric trains on the clearly visible benches. Later, trains were abandoned in favour of Euclid dump trucks.
Another train-related aspect of Kennecott is reflected in the colour postcard on this exhibit page:
That school field trip was memorable. What kid wouldn't be impressed by a machine that could turn a railway car upside down to empty it, and a crusher which was turning boulders the size of small trucks into dust!
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Railroads constantly re-purpose out-dated equipment, or re-purpose surplus equipment. The "station" in question is a converted wooden box car. You can see the original door in the middle of the side. Railroads often converted box cars into cabooses as well. The station was probably not used for passenger service. It was more likely for crews, workers and storage.
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Michael78621 said,
"The station was probably not used for passenger service."
That would certainly be the case. That area literally had hundreds of mines. My home town, Silver City, was once the world capital for silver production, and the area generally once provided most of the world's supply of gold. There must have been passenger trains coming into Silver City — I assume that the fancy ATSF train station served passengers as well as freight — but I doubt there were any passenger trains serving the Mining District.
The postcard of the ATSF station that I showed earlier was a replacement for this station, which certainly seems to be designed for passenger use.
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This is the back cover of the latest Linn's that just arrived 2 days ago -
might be of interest to some of you;
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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
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Attractive event cover that just crossed my desk.
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I Wonder how many of our UK members remember the Ian Allan "British Railways Locomotives".As a Kid (and still is a great passion of mine) train spotting,I also had a very nice collection of railway related stamps,which has now been disposed of.
I do still have hundreds of W/W covers and postcards though.
I was also a member of The Ian Allan Loco Spotters Club and still have my club badge.
When I got my fist job as a paper delivery boy one of the first things I bought was a copy of this book.It is about 25mm thick and has all the loco numbers for BR Standard and EX _W-D Loco's,and all shed allocations .
These books were the bees knees for any lad to have.
It was a sad day when Beeching got his hands on BR.For us trainspotters any way.
Brian ( I love locos)
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I've always been intrigued by trains, but not as much as by airliners. Here are two photos I took at the train museum in Prince George, BC, when I lived there.
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Hello Snowy
Ah.........The golden age of steam .
I was also a GB train-spotter as a lad - always had Ian Allen books in my inside school blazer pocket. Lots of excitement at Kings Cross with those great iron horses. Still get excited by trains.... (ask the wife!!!!!!)
Did you buy the 24 mag series - History of Railways? I picked up two large binders for $2 at a thrift shop......still reading.
Heres a cover or 2 you might enjoy
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I have long told people that - if all they knew of their town or country was what they saw on TV - they would flee. Nonetheless, although I should have known better ...
I had fully absorbed the Brit TV message that Manchester was a post-apocalyptic disaster zone full of zombie junkies prowling abandoned factories full of drippy, broken water pipes ...
As my plane touched down, I saw a wooden platform aside the end of the runway, occupied by a half-dozen-plus folks with binoculars (and what I quickly realized were) airline schedules ...
They were plane-spotting.
I had a good laugh at myself, and I knew I'd survive my visit.
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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Manchester is a wonderful place....Before the M62 came into existence I have been known in the course of business to venture from East to West over the Snake Pass through the most hideous weather. I was young and reckless but I managed to survive - just.
Occasionally I've spent many a long rainy hour down Bury New Road, and even ventured into the Arndale Centre if the mood was right.
But I digress
This is not a train stamp......close, but not that close
Clear the tracks for the City of Denver
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Ah.........The golden age of steam Big Grin.
I was also a GB train-spotter as a lad - always had Ian Allen books in my inside school blazer pocket. Lots of excitement at Kings Cross with those great iron horses. Still get excited by trains.... (ask the wife!!!!!!)
Did you buy the 24 mag series - History of Railways? I picked up two large binders for $2 at a thrift shop......still reading.
Ah London that was the place to be ,all the regions ,I used to live in North East Lincolnshire ,before moving to Australia.
Our railway was a dead end line Cleethorpes. My mate and I would cycle to Doncaster to get any decent numbers .Cabbed A4 seagull on Doncaster station.
Those were the days.still miss the soot and grime hanging out the carriage window on a cheap day excursion to London.
I have a friend in the UK who sends me out copies of railway magazines he picks up.
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This is a cover from my collection that I bought some years ago that was in a small accumulation. The cover itself is a little on the rough side, but, it is such a nice design, I couldn't help but to keep it
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Here is a nice cover showing the front & back of an advert cover for the California Street Railway Company ca 1932. It was too nice to pass up
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snowy12/Brian.
I know Cleethorpes well. Before moving to NZ I lived in Spalding. (As a teen in the early 60's I played in a band at the Café Dansant, Cleethorpes and at a bar near the top of the pier - you might remember them?).
As lads we would bike 21 miles to Peterborough or Tallington for our train spotting. Cheap day fares from Spalding to Kings Cross (before Beeching). Also Spalding was quite a large junction in those days, so there were many trains all day long.
Not many people in Cleethorpes probably know this, but Cleethorpes Pier originally cost £8,000, and was financed by the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway (later the Great Central Railway). It was officially opened on August Bank Holiday Monday 1873.
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Nice cover Bujutsu
THanks for scanning
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Bujutsu,
Was the Standard Fuel Co cover postally used?
Regards ... Tim.
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Here's an interesting cover - just need a boat!
Stamps from 1999 125th Anniv of Taiping Malaysia set
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I remember going to Cleethorpes as a young lad and being fascinated by the fact that both railway station and gasworks appeared ( from a distance) to be on the beach!
I too was a railway enthusiast when steam was (just) still king. I lived in the West Riding of Yorkshire and the main traffic was coal. Our local line had 2 up and 2 down lines and had a seemingly endless procession of full and empty coal trains all day long intersperced with the odd general freight,local passenger and express trains.
However after a couple of weeks one had seen all the local locos and so trips further afield(in small groups aged about 11 - Mothers these days would have a fit !!), York and Doncaster for the East Coast main line and Crewe for the West Coast main line.
A typical BR anachronism was that one could not get a cheap day return from Dewsbury to Crewe, so for cheapness we would buy a cdr to Stalybridge - jump off the train and buy a cdr from Stalybridge to Stockport - get back on the same train (!), and on arrival at Stockport buy a cdr to Crewe ( but at least we had to change trains at Stockport !!). We had a Science Society at secondary school, and among other trips outings were arranged to the locomotive works at Doncaster and the brand new computerised freight marshalling yard at Healey Mills near Wakefield. I really started to lose interest when diesel traction became more prevalent and transferred my allegiance to buses ( and ended up working in the bus industry for nigh on 30 years - but that is a different story).
However when I am out and about I still lurk near the many preserved heritage railways that exist in the UK. Just to keep (vaguely) on topic it should be noted that part of the fund-raising efforts of these railways involve the carriage of covers containing railway letter stamps.
Ah - nostalgia is not what it used to be !
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My home town Cleethorpes,
And my other favorite.
Kings Cross
Always remember the ticket lady at New Clee (station before Cleethorpes)She would give me cheap day returns to Kings Cross even when it wasn't a cheap day.
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Received this from capestampman today. This is a beautiful stamp.
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Hey...I won this train envelope right here on Stamporama approvals.. Number 2
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Here is a postcard from my collection with a nice Aberdeen & Miles City Railroad Post Office cancellation, for those of you who enjoy trains.
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A slightly different perspective...
James M. Hamilton resided in the small town of Lynn, Indiana, where I grew up. A descendant of his, late in life, apparently left some postal history items with Dad because his own family members weren't interested. This calling card was among those items.
Mr. Hamilton became a mail clerk in 1882 when the Columbus, Springfield & Indianapolis R.P.O. was initiated in 1882 over the newly completed Indianapolis, Bloomington & Western Railway that ran between Columbus, Ohio, and Indianapolis via Lynn.
The RPO became the Columbus & Indianapolis RPO in 1888 and then the Springfield & Indianapolis RPO in 1889. That RPO was in existence from 1889 to 1949.
A county history was published in 1914 and noted that Mr. Hamilton, then either 69 or 70 years of age, was still working on that mail route.
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Here is a train/tunnel/boat themed card received in the mail by my Grand Dad back in 1907.
Eventually, instead of a tunnel, they built a bridge.
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Very unique postcard, Dennis/Benque - I love it!
Thanks for showing it!
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Hi Randy,
I'm glad you like it too. I was really thrilled when Mom dug it out of an old box of memorabilia, and handed it to me "for the stamp".
I try to avoid the insensitivity to ordinary things around us, and save anything which I believe may be of familial, historical, or monetary value in future.
The expression "price wise, and value ignorant" seems widespread in these days of Wal-Mart, so I try to see things from a different slant.
I've made the ferry trip across the waters in the postcard, many times; but not since the early 60's,and I've never seen the bridge. Once, my Mom and Brother and I took the train from Montreal to Summerside PEI, and we floated over the waters of the Northumberland Straits on the MV Abegweit (Now the Columbia Yacht Club Clubship in Chicago). The ferry took about 1 hour to make the crossing, so plenty of time for a couple of young lads to run around the ship.
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"Ah.........The golden age of steam"
This just on BBC news, maybe we can see them run again on a regular schedule.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-39581712
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I think this is a rare view. It shows the interior of a US Railway Post Office (RPO) mail car that operated on the P. C. C. & St. Louis Railway as the Springfield and Indianapolis RPO. The photo was taken in December of 1910 and the car was lying on its side following a train wreck east of Indianapolis. I could find no local info about the wreck, but the Post Office Department later reported this was one of 446 wrecks that year involving the Railway Mail Service. 27 employees died and 98 were seriously injured in those wrecks. From my reading, it appears the POD was slow to force the railroads to switch from wood to steel construction of the mail cars, but then Congress got involved in 1910. My reading also indicates the POD was an awful employer back then. Some nasty work conditions and brutal work rules.
I've posted this postcard to my Flickr project and this is the link.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hoosier_recollections/34017600666/in/dateposted/
I find it difficult to orient myself to view the interior of a mail car on its side. So, besides the close-up view, I created a second image of the postcard that I rotated 90° so that the floor is at the bottom of that view. You'll find the link to the rotated view down near the bottom of the description on the Flickr page. When you go to that page showing the rotated view, there are also links near the bottom of that page to two close-ups of the rotated view.
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I just discovered a great site for identifying Locomotives. Although in German.
Here is the link.
http://www.albert-gieseler.de/dampf_de/tables/lokreihe0.shtml
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Here is another postcard in my collection, purchased from an antiques store, showing five steam engines pulling and pushing a train through the mountains of Utah. This was mailed from Salt Lake City, Utah, USA to Des Moines, Iowa, USA on the 6th of July, 1914. For all of you train lovers in the club, enjoy!
Linus
(Can you imagine how loud this train must have been as it passed by!)
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Some rail related pictorial cancels from the 1970s... don't forget that I was the producer of the ODDITY Cachet back then.
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Airplanes have always been "my thing" more than trains, but I recently came across this R.P.O. item on eBay:
The Rincon & Silver City R.P.O. served my home town, Silver City, New Mexico, into the early 1950s. This postal card was apparently postmarked and backstamped on each of two trips, one from Rincon to Silver City and the other from Silver City to Rincon.
The railway was apparently a spur line of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway; it ran from the main line near Deming, New Mexico, north to Silver City. Here's a photo of an ATSF locomotive that I took near the train station in Silver City late 1961 or early in 1962:
The trains that arrived in Silver City couldn’t turn around because there was no turntable there, so they had to be driven backwards to return to Rincon.
I remember the ATSF railway station; it was demolished in the late 1960s:
Bob
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I am not a collector of trains, but I do have these that caught
my eye so I held onto them;
2 of them because of the Michigan connection, the other just because
I liked the special cancel;
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In my previous post to this thread, I showed this postcard, picturing othe ATSF train station in Silver City, New Mexico, my home town:
To "compare and contrast," here's another ATSF station which was located at what was called Hanover Junction, about 12 miles east-northeast of Silver City:
The terminus of the track that heads to the left was the Empire Zinc Mine, site of the 1950 strike by Hispanic miners that became the longest strike in American history.
For any mining enthusiasts out there, here's a photograph of the Empire Zinc Mine's headframe:
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Wow! Love the Hanover Junction Station. Looks like it's an old rail car!
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" Looks like it's an old rail car!"
It is.
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I'd never thought about that "shed" being an old railway car, but I think Michael's right.
Another interesting thing about that image: the railroad spur that heads to the right was built for trains that transported copper ore from the huge open-pit Kennecott Copper mine at Santa Rita (in the 1950s & 1960s it was the biggest open-pit mine in the world) to nearby Hurley, where the Kennecott smelter was located (and where my grandparents lived — Grandad Ingraham was employed there as a machinist. Here's a photo of the mine; the real-photo postcard is a recent acquisition:
It's interesting to me that the huge amounts of ore that were removed from Santa Rita were all carried on that single railroad spur to Hurley. In the 1950s, ore was being removed from the pit by electric trains on the clearly visible benches. Later, trains were abandoned in favour of Euclid dump trucks.
Another train-related aspect of Kennecott is reflected in the colour postcard on this exhibit page:
That school field trip was memorable. What kid wouldn't be impressed by a machine that could turn a railway car upside down to empty it, and a crusher which was turning boulders the size of small trucks into dust!
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Railroads constantly re-purpose out-dated equipment, or re-purpose surplus equipment. The "station" in question is a converted wooden box car. You can see the original door in the middle of the side. Railroads often converted box cars into cabooses as well. The station was probably not used for passenger service. It was more likely for crews, workers and storage.
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Michael78621 said,
"The station was probably not used for passenger service."
That would certainly be the case. That area literally had hundreds of mines. My home town, Silver City, was once the world capital for silver production, and the area generally once provided most of the world's supply of gold. There must have been passenger trains coming into Silver City — I assume that the fancy ATSF train station served passengers as well as freight — but I doubt there were any passenger trains serving the Mining District.
The postcard of the ATSF station that I showed earlier was a replacement for this station, which certainly seems to be designed for passenger use.
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This is the back cover of the latest Linn's that just arrived 2 days ago -
might be of interest to some of you;
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