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Ukraine, 1918. I hope your Scott catalogues have these, but my numbers are Stanley Gibbons.
A "smudgy, rather blurred handstamp in black" (SG) identifies this strip as 'Odessa VI', no.254.
But "rather smudgily handstamped in black" puts it at Yekaterinoslav (no.287). And "handstamped very roughly in black" at Podolia (no.381).
So, would you say you are looking at 'smudgy, rather blurred', 'rather smudgily', or 'very roughly'?
(I'm a complete novice in this area - the strip came on a page with a nice block of early Dubasov - but I would have thought that descriptions like these are too subjective for positive identification.)
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I think your problem is that it is a strip. You seem to have a couple of different "styles" of overprints although I have no idea how that could possibly be on a strip.
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Hi Guthrum,
These look both the wrong shape and too small to me to be SG's Odessa VI.
SG has a good listing of the main types but as they say they don't list them all.
I believe this is a type from Homel, "Homel 4" in the Pos catalogue where it is the lowest priced of many values with this type.
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Kelly, the overprints on this stamp were probably hand applied to each stamp. Different pressure on each stamp would result in the various lack of "completeness" of the trident overprint.
Nigel, I looked through the Scott Classic and Michel catalogs. While they list many types of overprints, I couldn't find anything matching the stamp.
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Thanks Michael (and Kelly and Nigel) for your help on this. It was a random purchase, and I cannot imagine I'll see too many of this sort of stamp in future. I'll make sure you get a mention in the footnote to this strip when it reaches an album!
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Hello,
If you are interested to pursue these further, you might find these blogs useful as they cover these stamps in several articles
Do a Google search for
trevor pateman blog tridents
A lot of info will come up
The hand-stamped varieties are covered in one
His blogs have a wealth of info on stamps of that region.
Sending him a picture might also prove useful
trevor@trevorpateman.co.uk
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Thanks, Nelson. I often have a look at Trevor's stand at the Strand Stamp Fair, and have occasionally bought material from him. I'll check out the blog right away.
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Ukraine, 1918. I hope your Scott catalogues have these, but my numbers are Stanley Gibbons.
A "smudgy, rather blurred handstamp in black" (SG) identifies this strip as 'Odessa VI', no.254.
But "rather smudgily handstamped in black" puts it at Yekaterinoslav (no.287). And "handstamped very roughly in black" at Podolia (no.381).
So, would you say you are looking at 'smudgy, rather blurred', 'rather smudgily', or 'very roughly'?
(I'm a complete novice in this area - the strip came on a page with a nice block of early Dubasov - but I would have thought that descriptions like these are too subjective for positive identification.)
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12:04:23pm
re: Can You Identify This Smudgy, Blurred or Rough Trident Overprint?
I think your problem is that it is a strip. You seem to have a couple of different "styles" of overprints although I have no idea how that could possibly be on a strip.
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re: Can You Identify This Smudgy, Blurred or Rough Trident Overprint?
Hi Guthrum,
These look both the wrong shape and too small to me to be SG's Odessa VI.
SG has a good listing of the main types but as they say they don't list them all.
I believe this is a type from Homel, "Homel 4" in the Pos catalogue where it is the lowest priced of many values with this type.
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12:22:27am
re: Can You Identify This Smudgy, Blurred or Rough Trident Overprint?
Kelly, the overprints on this stamp were probably hand applied to each stamp. Different pressure on each stamp would result in the various lack of "completeness" of the trident overprint.
Nigel, I looked through the Scott Classic and Michel catalogs. While they list many types of overprints, I couldn't find anything matching the stamp.
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re: Can You Identify This Smudgy, Blurred or Rough Trident Overprint?
Thanks Michael (and Kelly and Nigel) for your help on this. It was a random purchase, and I cannot imagine I'll see too many of this sort of stamp in future. I'll make sure you get a mention in the footnote to this strip when it reaches an album!
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07:18:44am
re: Can You Identify This Smudgy, Blurred or Rough Trident Overprint?
Hello,
If you are interested to pursue these further, you might find these blogs useful as they cover these stamps in several articles
Do a Google search for
trevor pateman blog tridents
A lot of info will come up
The hand-stamped varieties are covered in one
His blogs have a wealth of info on stamps of that region.
Sending him a picture might also prove useful
trevor@trevorpateman.co.uk
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re: Can You Identify This Smudgy, Blurred or Rough Trident Overprint?
Thanks, Nelson. I often have a look at Trevor's stand at the Strand Stamp Fair, and have occasionally bought material from him. I'll check out the blog right away.
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