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Ningpo
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21 Feb 2015
09:04:33am
This cover, which is really a heavy duty mailer, has a nice US 'Marine One' $16.25 with a 6 cent 'Eisenhower'. The reverse has 6 of those Winter Park, Florida strikes.

If I soak it off, only a feint blurred cancel will remain. If I leave it, would this be considered as an unwieldy ugly beast?



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philatelia
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21 Feb 2015
09:33:12am
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

Keeping a cover intact is a personal preference for modern material. But in any case, please be careful with the Express stamp. They DON'T soak!

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21 Feb 2015
09:57:57am

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re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

A bit off your thread...but i met Michael Rogers at the APS show in Hartford this summer...i watched his table until things quieted down a bit and then wanted to ask him a question. Real Gentleman and a nice fellow !!Thumbs Up

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michael78651
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21 Feb 2015
12:03:55pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

I'd wager that not many of those were used on cover. It is a commercial cover, albeit a philatelic commercial use. Would be worth more on cover than off.

You could send the picture via email to Chad Snee over at Linn's. They have a periodic article about dollar stamp usage on covers.

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21 Feb 2015
04:35:00pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

absolutely no way I'd soak it; i'd want the cover intact; and, far from ugly, it's delightful. wanna trade a pretty cover for it?

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21 Feb 2015
07:15:27pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

I'd make an album cover...big sheet of mylar would work wonders....

unless it fits into a page protector, then its it own page

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Ningpo
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21 Feb 2015
08:34:48pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

Thank you all for your comments and I'll take your advice. I'm not normally one to destroy covers just to get the stamps off, it's just that this is quite a bulky item (about 3mm thick). I shall keep this intact with the countless 'entires' that have been sent to me over the years.

Incidentally, what is the highest denomination on a US stamp that is currently in use?

Luckily, the tape that was used to secure the mailer is paper based. So it should remain stable, unlike the UK sent mailer I posted on the other thread 'Show your most recent acquisitions'.

On that one, the booklet pane sits over that brown parcel tape that tends to bleed and break down over time.

I think Tuskenraider mentioned he has met Michael Rogers. Is he still in business? I think I read that his company had been taken over.

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Ningpo
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21 Feb 2015
08:44:41pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

@Philatelia:

I take it then that the high value is an 'express' stamp and that these are similar to 'peel and sticks'?

@Michael78651:

Do you really think this would be of interest to Chad Snee?

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philatelia
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21 Feb 2015
11:20:36pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

Yup that's commonly called an "express" stamp. The two common high value definitives here in the USA are for priority rate and the express rate.

The priority stamp will pay for delivery of a priority envelope or small box - these are free at the post office. The priority rate is supposed to be two day delivery to most locations. The priority rate can also be used on other boxes and envelopes not supplied by the post office, but the calculations for weight, size, distance and so on is crazy complicated. The current priority rate stamp is $5.75 and depicts a grist mill. The rates are always increasing!

The express rate will pay for overnight delivery using a post office mailing envelope. The current express rate stamp is $19.99 and shows the USS Arizona memorial.


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21 Feb 2015
11:42:40pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

Here's a picture of them.

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Ningpo
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23 Feb 2015
03:53:13pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

Thank you all for the education.

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23 Feb 2015
04:11:30pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

Soak....
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Ningpo
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23 Feb 2015
04:43:50pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

I haven't touched a drop!

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bobstew617
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23 Feb 2015
09:06:12pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

I'm not sure if soaking would work for this stamp, since it is self adhesive. I'd say either keep it intact or cut around it.

Seeing the envelope from Michael Rogers made me nostalgic as I miss him and his auctions here in the Orlando area. He is moving down to South Florida as he now works ("semi-retired") for the firm that he merged MRI into, Kelleher.

I met Michael at his offices when he was at New England Ave. I had a high value King George VI $2 I had inherited from my father in law's collection. We did a trade for it from his Winter Park Stamp Shop stock (got some nice material which I could not have afforded otherwise) and gave me a Yang Hong Kong catalog.

I was able over the years to pick up not only some nice Hong Kong material from his auctions but also quite a few Swiss MNH sheets and higher value sets at good values. BOB

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Buzz
24 Feb 2015
06:21:29pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

Just my two cents. This same question was asked on another inter net forum lately.
The answer from dealers and auctioneers was a resounding,"leave it intact always"!!
Apart from the possibility of damaging certain stamps in soaking,covers are getting to be more sought after all the time. To the oint where a growing number of serious collectors collect only covers.

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Bobstamp
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24 Feb 2015
06:54:56pm
re: Should I keep this cover intact, or soak the stamps off?

I've been helping to organize VANPEX (VANcouverPhilatelicEXhibition) since 2004. Not only are exhibitors leaning ever more strongly to postal history, so to are stamp dealers. In our bourse in recent years, several dealers have sold covers exclusively, some have sold both covers and stamps, and a few have sold only stamps. There's got to be some retail logic there: You can make more money selling a few ordinary covers than you can selling a few ordinary stamps.

Bob

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