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30 Jan 2015
09:08:38pm
Hello Forum,

I've been on the road, but look forward to building some more pages this coming week.

I had a quick question about the Staples brand creme 67lb cover stock. I purchased the 125 sheet packs with item # 679539 in the past. Is the online 250 page pack cover stock with the Item #620700 the same stuff? There is no store here closeby, and would like a good supply of the same paper I've been using.

If no one knows, I will bite the bullet, order some and update.

Thanks for your help!

(sitting in a Delta Skyclub in ATL....)

Don
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31 Jan 2015
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If you don't get an answer

I can appreciate that Staples is an easy fix for some basic needs.
Until recently I looked after the graphics & printing needs of a manufacturing & retail operation & when it came to quality paper, card stock, labels etc. I found plenty of local print house suppliers.
They generally carry a wide range of choices and often less expensive than Staples.

Lots of online companies that specialize also.In the US
www.thepapermillstore.com/card-stock/
www.paperandmore.com/solid-cardstock
Just an alternative.

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31 Jan 2015
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That's fine. I use Staples Cover Stock (I guess I'm locked in now!)

Does anyone know that the two are the same product?

Thanks,

Don

P.S. I sincerely don't mean to be dismissive. I just have a bit tied up in this one type of stock, and it has served my needs well.

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31 Jan 2015
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Don -- I bet if you called their 800 number and persevered a bit you'd be able to find this out for sure. The first person you speak with may not know, but you could probably get transferred enough to someone who knows.

Update: Turns out they have a "product concierge" on their website. It looks exactly like the kind of service you need to get this question answered. You can call, chat or email.

http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/programs/productconcierge/

Let us know how it turns out!


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31 Jan 2015
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Hi!

I was on chat before I posted, and while the agent was cheerful, he/she could not locate the Item number 679539. I later called my closest store in Boone NC Rolling Eyes and this is a current item in stock. It's not too big of a deal, but I would like some consistency in my albums. I just remounted my entire US mint collection!

Cheers,

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31 Jan 2015
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If it were I, I'd probably then try calling. Sometimes entirely different organizations handle chat versus phone -- perhaps one of them is actually in-house. If not, perhaps try email?

There are Staples stores near me, but I'm not sure how that could be helpful to you ...?

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The number you are using is on the staples canadian website - just type "Staples.ca" into your header and then plug the number into the search bar. I tried to cut/paste the description back into their US site and nothing....... it is a Canadian product and the US site says not available......


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03 Feb 2015
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UPDATE

Ordering online #620700 was a massive FAIL. The products are not the same, even though today I was told by an online chat associated that they were. However in speaking to the customer service rep on the phone, I find out that online product is NOT acid free, and the color is different. This is too bad considering that the closest Staples store is an hour away, and they do not have what I need in stock. I also will not be able to preorder for store delivery per the customer service rep.

I'm looking into alternative paper sources now, before I get too deep with this. I prefer a smooth finish but cover stock thickness and an off white color. I want to be able to order the same product year after year without worry that the paper will be noticeably different. If this is OCD, then I'll admit to it. I will be getting samples from online vendors, but would like any suggestions from the good forum.

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Sorry about the disappointment and trouble, Don.

I can't really recommend only an online paper source, so I need to leave that to others.

But I do have an idea, just in case it might work out with your particular logistics.

Do your travels ever take you to a large city? If so, I'd suggest seeing if you can find a large commercial paper supplier that's open to the public. We have a chain like that in Southern California, called Kelly Paper.

http://kellypaper.com/

I mention this approach because they carry hundreds of different papers and have samples available of all of them available so that you can really make sure it's what you're looking for. Their staff is also good at making recommendations if you bring a sample in and ask for their closest match to it. Prices are typically pretty good. (Plus no shipping.)

I realize you're probably not heading out here anytime soon, but perhaps there's another large/larger/largish city that's possibly on your business or personal travel rounds?

Just tossing that out there in case it might be a feasible choice for you ...

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I also just jotted down that product information, and will make a point to go into a Staples within the next couple of days (if that's soon enough). I'll just see whether or not it's still available in the stores, and it's not just your closest store that's out or is not carrying it.

I take it this is sold under the Staples brand name?

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03 Feb 2015
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I too have OCD with my paper and I order from Staples. Mine is 65lb stock, it's called beige but it has a parchment design to it. They had a sale earlier in the year and I didn't want to risk not having what I wanted in the future so I over-budgeted and seriously stocked up!

I hope you find what you are looking for.

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03 Feb 2015
02:51:17pm
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Thanks all for your comments!!

I travel extensively for work, so I will certainly check out Kelly paper. Staples still carries #679539 in 125 page packs, so I will have to keep my eyes open if I want to continue down this path. I just thought it would be easier if I could get this product online. Btw, the price is now $9.29/pack.

Regards,

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I've dealt with various paper suppliers and Kelly Paper primarily. What I found out over the past 25 years or so was that the quality of paper changes ever so often, The colors and shades vary from hardly noticeable to very obvious. Sometimes the paper manufacturer changes the product code, other times they do not. If the package label does not say acid-free or archival, then it will change quality and color a bit over the years. We used over 50 different papers in our copy shop and used acid-free papers when and if requested by the customer. At a higher price, of course.

If one plans to make and use 1000 pages over the years, buy all at one time. In my experience, Staples (and Office Max, etc.) had the highest prices for paper, except sometimes during a sale.

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03 Feb 2015
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Hi Tad,

Good points.

I've decided to get out of my little bubble in Tennessee and research paper, supplies, prices and quality. When I picked up collecting again, I had about 600 sheets of paper left over from my last experiments in page building. My requirements have changed a little now that I'm really focused on a nice presentation.

I have some sample swatches coming to me for review in my home, before I make a choice. I do plan to buy a large enough supply for a few years. I was having some printer jams, that I was trying to overlook, but I need to take everything into consideration. I will let the forum know what I've decided.

Regards,

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Well, I found a source and decided on a new paper. Domtar Cougar Natural in Smooth finish. It's a beautiful paper. I ordered via web and the paper arrives in a box that looks like it went through the war. Of course all of the contents were damaged. Now I have two packages to return...

I'm about ready to give up on this project. All I want is a good steady source of reasonably priced paper for what will be a potentially large written up collection. If I could buy locally, that's what I would do. I live in a cow pasture.

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10 Feb 2015
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Office Depot / Office Max. You can buy online, buy in store, have it delivered to your home. I use their acid-free paper for album pages that I print.

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Forum,

I am very pleased! My supplier came through with superior customer service! I mean this company went above and beyond to make sure my needs were met regarding the damaged paper. If you need to know of a good online supplier of paper, you can message me, as I do not wish to promote in the forum.

Back to the album:
I printed several pages on the Domtar Cougar 80 lb text paper and realized that the paper was really too thin for my tastes. It is a perfectly good paper, and I will probably use it for supplemental write-ups I decided to go back to cover stock, but stay with the Domtar Cougar Smooth Natural 65 lb cover. It really is gorgeous paper. Since I'm only 164 pages in on my US collection, I'm debating on starting over and remounting on the Domtar. My wife says no!! SurpriseBig GrinNerd

Waiting on paper has allowed me to really dig in and build these Iceland pages. And yes, I'll even keep some of the selvage (or selvedge for my British friends).

Cheers,
Don

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17 Feb 2015
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Don,

Glad you resolved your paper issues. I originally started with Staples 67lb cover stock and felt it was too stiff and then I tried Domtar Cougar 60lb text, but felt it was too thin...I feel like Goldielocks looking for the paper this is just right Laughing

Now, I've ordered Domtar Cougar 70 lb text hoping it will be just right...

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17 Feb 2015
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haha! That's great!

Yes, I'm actually very happy with the color and texture of the Domtar Cougar Natural. It sets off classic era stamps nicely! Good luck with your decision!

Now, I'm working through Sweden then Finland...

Don

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Finally got my 'Goldilocks' paper that I'm very happy withApplause

It is noticeably thicker than my previous 60lb text, but more flexible than the Staples 67lb cover stock. Here’s what I finally settled on…got it from Amazon for $23 plus free shipping, which I thought is a great deal. Cool I think I was paying about the same for only 125 sheets of the cover stock from Staples.

“EarthChoice Colors - Opaque Text, Cream, Vellum, 8.5" x 11", 70 lb. Text - 500 sheets (Domtar, 81077)”



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Congrats!!! I'm sure that is a great choice.

Since we have had bone chilling temperatures here, I've had some time to stay inside and make album pages. I'm really focused on getting the 1940-1940 stuff catalogued and mounted.

Stay warm,

Don

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22 Feb 2015
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If I was building a collection on a specific paper stock from Staples, I'd wait for the next 25% off coupon and buy a case, or all they had! It's peace of mind to have that lifetime supply on hand, since companies change product and most especially, cheapen quality all the time.

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30 Jan 2015
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Hello Forum,

I've been on the road, but look forward to building some more pages this coming week.

I had a quick question about the Staples brand creme 67lb cover stock. I purchased the 125 sheet packs with item # 679539 in the past. Is the online 250 page pack cover stock with the Item #620700 the same stuff? There is no store here closeby, and would like a good supply of the same paper I've been using.

If no one knows, I will bite the bullet, order some and update.

Thanks for your help!

(sitting in a Delta Skyclub in ATL....)

Don

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31 Jan 2015
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If you don't get an answer

I can appreciate that Staples is an easy fix for some basic needs.
Until recently I looked after the graphics & printing needs of a manufacturing & retail operation & when it came to quality paper, card stock, labels etc. I found plenty of local print house suppliers.
They generally carry a wide range of choices and often less expensive than Staples.

Lots of online companies that specialize also.In the US
www.thepapermillstore.com/card-stock/
www.paperandmore.com/solid-cardstock
Just an alternative.

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31 Jan 2015
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That's fine. I use Staples Cover Stock (I guess I'm locked in now!)

Does anyone know that the two are the same product?

Thanks,

Don

P.S. I sincerely don't mean to be dismissive. I just have a bit tied up in this one type of stock, and it has served my needs well.

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Don -- I bet if you called their 800 number and persevered a bit you'd be able to find this out for sure. The first person you speak with may not know, but you could probably get transferred enough to someone who knows.

Update: Turns out they have a "product concierge" on their website. It looks exactly like the kind of service you need to get this question answered. You can call, chat or email.

http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/programs/productconcierge/

Let us know how it turns out!


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Hi!

I was on chat before I posted, and while the agent was cheerful, he/she could not locate the Item number 679539. I later called my closest store in Boone NC Rolling Eyes and this is a current item in stock. It's not too big of a deal, but I would like some consistency in my albums. I just remounted my entire US mint collection!

Cheers,

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If it were I, I'd probably then try calling. Sometimes entirely different organizations handle chat versus phone -- perhaps one of them is actually in-house. If not, perhaps try email?

There are Staples stores near me, but I'm not sure how that could be helpful to you ...?

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The number you are using is on the staples canadian website - just type "Staples.ca" into your header and then plug the number into the search bar. I tried to cut/paste the description back into their US site and nothing....... it is a Canadian product and the US site says not available......


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UPDATE

Ordering online #620700 was a massive FAIL. The products are not the same, even though today I was told by an online chat associated that they were. However in speaking to the customer service rep on the phone, I find out that online product is NOT acid free, and the color is different. This is too bad considering that the closest Staples store is an hour away, and they do not have what I need in stock. I also will not be able to preorder for store delivery per the customer service rep.

I'm looking into alternative paper sources now, before I get too deep with this. I prefer a smooth finish but cover stock thickness and an off white color. I want to be able to order the same product year after year without worry that the paper will be noticeably different. If this is OCD, then I'll admit to it. I will be getting samples from online vendors, but would like any suggestions from the good forum.

Regards,
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Sorry about the disappointment and trouble, Don.

I can't really recommend only an online paper source, so I need to leave that to others.

But I do have an idea, just in case it might work out with your particular logistics.

Do your travels ever take you to a large city? If so, I'd suggest seeing if you can find a large commercial paper supplier that's open to the public. We have a chain like that in Southern California, called Kelly Paper.

http://kellypaper.com/

I mention this approach because they carry hundreds of different papers and have samples available of all of them available so that you can really make sure it's what you're looking for. Their staff is also good at making recommendations if you bring a sample in and ask for their closest match to it. Prices are typically pretty good. (Plus no shipping.)

I realize you're probably not heading out here anytime soon, but perhaps there's another large/larger/largish city that's possibly on your business or personal travel rounds?

Just tossing that out there in case it might be a feasible choice for you ...

-- Dave

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I also just jotted down that product information, and will make a point to go into a Staples within the next couple of days (if that's soon enough). I'll just see whether or not it's still available in the stores, and it's not just your closest store that's out or is not carrying it.

I take it this is sold under the Staples brand name?

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re: Staples cover stock question - paper saga continues - Resolved and happy!

I too have OCD with my paper and I order from Staples. Mine is 65lb stock, it's called beige but it has a parchment design to it. They had a sale earlier in the year and I didn't want to risk not having what I wanted in the future so I over-budgeted and seriously stocked up!

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Thanks all for your comments!!

I travel extensively for work, so I will certainly check out Kelly paper. Staples still carries #679539 in 125 page packs, so I will have to keep my eyes open if I want to continue down this path. I just thought it would be easier if I could get this product online. Btw, the price is now $9.29/pack.

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I've dealt with various paper suppliers and Kelly Paper primarily. What I found out over the past 25 years or so was that the quality of paper changes ever so often, The colors and shades vary from hardly noticeable to very obvious. Sometimes the paper manufacturer changes the product code, other times they do not. If the package label does not say acid-free or archival, then it will change quality and color a bit over the years. We used over 50 different papers in our copy shop and used acid-free papers when and if requested by the customer. At a higher price, of course.

If one plans to make and use 1000 pages over the years, buy all at one time. In my experience, Staples (and Office Max, etc.) had the highest prices for paper, except sometimes during a sale.

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Hi Tad,

Good points.

I've decided to get out of my little bubble in Tennessee and research paper, supplies, prices and quality. When I picked up collecting again, I had about 600 sheets of paper left over from my last experiments in page building. My requirements have changed a little now that I'm really focused on a nice presentation.

I have some sample swatches coming to me for review in my home, before I make a choice. I do plan to buy a large enough supply for a few years. I was having some printer jams, that I was trying to overlook, but I need to take everything into consideration. I will let the forum know what I've decided.

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Well, I found a source and decided on a new paper. Domtar Cougar Natural in Smooth finish. It's a beautiful paper. I ordered via web and the paper arrives in a box that looks like it went through the war. Of course all of the contents were damaged. Now I have two packages to return...

I'm about ready to give up on this project. All I want is a good steady source of reasonably priced paper for what will be a potentially large written up collection. If I could buy locally, that's what I would do. I live in a cow pasture.

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10 Feb 2015
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Office Depot / Office Max. You can buy online, buy in store, have it delivered to your home. I use their acid-free paper for album pages that I print.

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Forum,

I am very pleased! My supplier came through with superior customer service! I mean this company went above and beyond to make sure my needs were met regarding the damaged paper. If you need to know of a good online supplier of paper, you can message me, as I do not wish to promote in the forum.

Back to the album:
I printed several pages on the Domtar Cougar 80 lb text paper and realized that the paper was really too thin for my tastes. It is a perfectly good paper, and I will probably use it for supplemental write-ups I decided to go back to cover stock, but stay with the Domtar Cougar Smooth Natural 65 lb cover. It really is gorgeous paper. Since I'm only 164 pages in on my US collection, I'm debating on starting over and remounting on the Domtar. My wife says no!! SurpriseBig GrinNerd

Waiting on paper has allowed me to really dig in and build these Iceland pages. And yes, I'll even keep some of the selvage (or selvedge for my British friends).

Cheers,
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Don,

Glad you resolved your paper issues. I originally started with Staples 67lb cover stock and felt it was too stiff and then I tried Domtar Cougar 60lb text, but felt it was too thin...I feel like Goldielocks looking for the paper this is just right Laughing

Now, I've ordered Domtar Cougar 70 lb text hoping it will be just right...

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haha! That's great!

Yes, I'm actually very happy with the color and texture of the Domtar Cougar Natural. It sets off classic era stamps nicely! Good luck with your decision!

Now, I'm working through Sweden then Finland...

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re: Staples cover stock question - paper saga continues - Resolved and happy!

Finally got my 'Goldilocks' paper that I'm very happy withApplause

It is noticeably thicker than my previous 60lb text, but more flexible than the Staples 67lb cover stock. Here’s what I finally settled on…got it from Amazon for $23 plus free shipping, which I thought is a great deal. Cool I think I was paying about the same for only 125 sheets of the cover stock from Staples.

“EarthChoice Colors - Opaque Text, Cream, Vellum, 8.5" x 11", 70 lb. Text - 500 sheets (Domtar, 81077)”



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donhearl

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20 Feb 2015
10:43:27am

re: Staples cover stock question - paper saga continues - Resolved and happy!

Congrats!!! I'm sure that is a great choice.

Since we have had bone chilling temperatures here, I've had some time to stay inside and make album pages. I'm really focused on getting the 1940-1940 stuff catalogued and mounted.

Stay warm,

Don

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22 Feb 2015
10:39:24am

re: Staples cover stock question - paper saga continues - Resolved and happy!

If I was building a collection on a specific paper stock from Staples, I'd wait for the next 25% off coupon and buy a case, or all they had! It's peace of mind to have that lifetime supply on hand, since companies change product and most especially, cheapen quality all the time.

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