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U.S. POSTAGE
PAID
AMERICAN HEART
ASSOCIATION"
From Disney 's ad wanting me to subscribe to children's DVD's, the block read:
PRSRT STD
U.S. POSTAGE
PAID
DISNEY
MOVIE CLUB
I hope my examples are clear enough so that my question can be answered. Is there somebody who collects these? Thank you for answering this. I have wondered about this for a long time.
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Those are pre-paid, printed postage indicia commonly used on commercial mail. There are people who collect them, but it would probably be a small number.
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I'd say post a scan and let's see what these are. Maybe this is a new area that might well grow with time. (I've never seen these - being out of USA)
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Here is what they look like. They are all in a standard format as required by the USPS. This one is from the Waco, Texas, Tourist Information Center.
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I would be interested in the American Heart Association one, as I collect Cardiology on Stamps.
Please message me through SOR.
Thanks!
David Giles
Ottawa, Canada
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10:12:22pm
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Bobby
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Here is what the aforementioned Disney indicia looks like. I get them all the time in junk mail.
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This may be a loaded answer as I am a pack rat at heart. But... I have recently started collecting those as well as any bulk rate stamp or machine canceled bulk rate. Starting an informal study of the crazy amount of rates for commercial advertising right here in the good ole USA. It has shocked me how many different rates I have received in my own mail since I started paying attention. Let alone all the different ways the postage is paid. Started grabbing stuff from office as well..and now the pandora's box is open... until I find that next rabbit trail.
It is quite interesting but not sure how many of us there are, especially anyone who is real serious about it. Actually in the long run. These will be the little saved and much desired rate study items for US exhibits in 2115 :-)
jere
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Jere,
unfortunately, most indicia and service-inscribed mail tells you nothing about the actual franking, and seldom gives you data that would allow you to determine it, since one seldom knows what discounts were included (was it state, 3 digit, full zip, carrier route, or saturation); and unless you keep the enclosure, posterity will seldom be able to date it or weight it.
David
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You are correct. But mostly what I am keeping has the stamp itself or an actual post value ( like a pitney-bose mark ) The ones that have been scanned and posted here are just ad-ons to keep for topical type discussion :-)
I will grab a few scans when I get a chance to clarify what I am looking for.
Jere
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Jere,
you are describing a few different franking approaches: indicum, typically printed directly on the envelope when produced, although they can be applied at later stages either through presses or hand stamps, and always "representing money" but having no monetary value in itself; meter, as in your pitney bowes example, which can be applied by either individual, company, or USPS, and typically, though not always, representing the amount the envelope will be charged, and IS real money; and service-inscribed stamps, which are real money, but represent a portion of the necessary franking to move the mail.
David
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Yes, on all technical points. A generalist at heart so sometimes I tend not to be very specific. Thanks for the clarifications.
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These are being collected - mainly as postal stationary/Covers. Some people limit their collecting to particular types of business mail. Some collect just Pitney-Bowes postage prints. Some people cut them from the envelop for easier storage in an album or stock book.
Rick VanGorder, Phoenix AZ
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I don't collect but rather 'save' much of the junk mail that comes into the house. Those with real stamps, bulk rate or non profit, as well as advertising with colorful envelopes and such, most stampless and with some mention of paying postage. I've saved covers from election candidates, car dealers and anything interesting. Why? Because somebody has to! At a wink of the eye, the things you save today will be 20-50 years old.
I own a 1991 Geo Tracker 4x4 convertible that I bought new. It was my daily transportation for years, and in that same wink of an eye, it's near 25 years old and is the one car that's kept in the garage!
I collect the period of 1903-08 and much of the usage of my 1 cent Franklin was commercial covers, some colorful and artistic worth $100s of dollars... that's prehistoric junk mail! Someone saved it, so I save mine today.
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"I collect the period of 1903-08 and much of the usage of my 1 cent Franklin was commercial covers, some colorful and artistic worth $100s of dollars... that's prehistoric junk mail! Someone saved it, so I save mine today."
Unfortunately, as we we 'progress", our quality of item is going down....
Now you get to collect a stamp that is manufactured in the same manner a dollar store sticker is produced......
Where as stamps (much like the one on you avatar) were produced in the same manner as printed currency
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02:14:32am
I have often wondered if there was somebody collecting the preprinted postage that comes from charities or even some businesses. For instance in today's mail I received a letter from the American Heart Association. Where the postage stamp should have been was a preprinted block that read "NONPROFIT ORG.
U.S. POSTAGE
PAID
AMERICAN HEART
ASSOCIATION"
From Disney 's ad wanting me to subscribe to children's DVD's, the block read:
PRSRT STD
U.S. POSTAGE
PAID
DISNEY
MOVIE CLUB
I hope my examples are clear enough so that my question can be answered. Is there somebody who collects these? Thank you for answering this. I have wondered about this for a long time.
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11:43:55am
re: Is Somebody collecting these?
Those are pre-paid, printed postage indicia commonly used on commercial mail. There are people who collect them, but it would probably be a small number.
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re: Is Somebody collecting these?
I'd say post a scan and let's see what these are. Maybe this is a new area that might well grow with time. (I've never seen these - being out of USA)
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06:43:31pm
re: Is Somebody collecting these?
Here is what they look like. They are all in a standard format as required by the USPS. This one is from the Waco, Texas, Tourist Information Center.
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re: Is Somebody collecting these?
I would be interested in the American Heart Association one, as I collect Cardiology on Stamps.
Please message me through SOR.
Thanks!
David Giles
Ottawa, Canada
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They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
18 Jan 2015
10:12:22pm
re: Is Somebody collecting these?
Please use this portion of the discussion board for "discussion." If you want to initiate a trade/purchase or offer items for trade or sale, please post an appropriate message in the classified section of the DB.
Bobby
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02:30:55pm
re: Is Somebody collecting these?
Here is what the aforementioned Disney indicia looks like. I get them all the time in junk mail.
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05:45:48pm
re: Is Somebody collecting these?
This may be a loaded answer as I am a pack rat at heart. But... I have recently started collecting those as well as any bulk rate stamp or machine canceled bulk rate. Starting an informal study of the crazy amount of rates for commercial advertising right here in the good ole USA. It has shocked me how many different rates I have received in my own mail since I started paying attention. Let alone all the different ways the postage is paid. Started grabbing stuff from office as well..and now the pandora's box is open... until I find that next rabbit trail.
It is quite interesting but not sure how many of us there are, especially anyone who is real serious about it. Actually in the long run. These will be the little saved and much desired rate study items for US exhibits in 2115 :-)
jere
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re: Is Somebody collecting these?
Jere,
unfortunately, most indicia and service-inscribed mail tells you nothing about the actual franking, and seldom gives you data that would allow you to determine it, since one seldom knows what discounts were included (was it state, 3 digit, full zip, carrier route, or saturation); and unless you keep the enclosure, posterity will seldom be able to date it or weight it.
David
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06:50:07pm
re: Is Somebody collecting these?
You are correct. But mostly what I am keeping has the stamp itself or an actual post value ( like a pitney-bose mark ) The ones that have been scanned and posted here are just ad-ons to keep for topical type discussion :-)
I will grab a few scans when I get a chance to clarify what I am looking for.
Jere
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re: Is Somebody collecting these?
Jere,
you are describing a few different franking approaches: indicum, typically printed directly on the envelope when produced, although they can be applied at later stages either through presses or hand stamps, and always "representing money" but having no monetary value in itself; meter, as in your pitney bowes example, which can be applied by either individual, company, or USPS, and typically, though not always, representing the amount the envelope will be charged, and IS real money; and service-inscribed stamps, which are real money, but represent a portion of the necessary franking to move the mail.
David
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10:23:19pm
re: Is Somebody collecting these?
Yes, on all technical points. A generalist at heart so sometimes I tend not to be very specific. Thanks for the clarifications.
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re: Is Somebody collecting these?
These are being collected - mainly as postal stationary/Covers. Some people limit their collecting to particular types of business mail. Some collect just Pitney-Bowes postage prints. Some people cut them from the envelop for easier storage in an album or stock book.
Rick VanGorder, Phoenix AZ
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re: Is Somebody collecting these?
I don't collect but rather 'save' much of the junk mail that comes into the house. Those with real stamps, bulk rate or non profit, as well as advertising with colorful envelopes and such, most stampless and with some mention of paying postage. I've saved covers from election candidates, car dealers and anything interesting. Why? Because somebody has to! At a wink of the eye, the things you save today will be 20-50 years old.
I own a 1991 Geo Tracker 4x4 convertible that I bought new. It was my daily transportation for years, and in that same wink of an eye, it's near 25 years old and is the one car that's kept in the garage!
I collect the period of 1903-08 and much of the usage of my 1 cent Franklin was commercial covers, some colorful and artistic worth $100s of dollars... that's prehistoric junk mail! Someone saved it, so I save mine today.
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re: Is Somebody collecting these?
"I collect the period of 1903-08 and much of the usage of my 1 cent Franklin was commercial covers, some colorful and artistic worth $100s of dollars... that's prehistoric junk mail! Someone saved it, so I save mine today."
Unfortunately, as we we 'progress", our quality of item is going down....
Now you get to collect a stamp that is manufactured in the same manner a dollar store sticker is produced......
Where as stamps (much like the one on you avatar) were produced in the same manner as printed currency
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