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General Philatelic/Identify This? : What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

 

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cocollectibles

13 Jan 2015
08:30:32pm
Is there a term for perforations where you still see the "chad" (if you will) in the perf slot? Here's an illustration from a larger block I have. I'm talking about the "white perfs" in several areas.

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13 Jan 2015
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13 Jan 2015
09:58:26pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

thanks for bringing up the "chad" phrase. All of us Floridians are well aware of the "hanging chads". Rolling On The Floor Laughing

If they are "blind" perfs, why don't they carry White Canes so that people will know they have a disability?
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14 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Does the blind perf increase or decrease the value of the block of stamps?

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14 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

As a collector of Nova Scotia material, I can say I've come across these blind perfs quite frequently and as mentioned Don't Punch Out the Perfs. I can't speak from a monetary perspective but from a collector's perspective, I covet these types of blocks when found in my Maritime Province collections.

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15 Jan 2015
12:33:03pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

In the clinical world "blind" is becoming a non-PC term. Often we use "masked" instead.
A "masked perf" would obviously lead to some good old fashioned fun

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15 Jan 2015
01:30:43pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Here's an interesting one:

The USPS got "fancy" by using star shaped perfs. Notice anything unusual here?

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15 Jan 2015
01:31:55pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

People who are blind are now "masked"? Really? Is a bank robber who covers his face a masked perp?

Purrfin2 asked,

"Does the blind perf increase or decrease the value of the block of stamps?"

. My guess is that such stamps are generally discounted a bit by dealers, but not by enough to make a real difference, especially with classic stamps.

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15 Jan 2015
01:36:22pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

"The USPS got "fancy" by using star shaped perfs. Notice anything unusual here?"



Obviously, looking at that particular pane, there's a star missing. Oh, and there's a star perf missing too.

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15 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

After so many decades of experience, the USPS is still experiencing teething problems.

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15 Jan 2015
04:21:41pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Perhaps "Perforation Challenged"? Or is that the term for imperforate?

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16 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

aren't gums and teeth related?

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17 Jan 2015
07:19:35pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Hi Peter! Hi folks! Quick question...

Do you think these really count as blind perfs, per se? I thought blind perfs were when there was no hole or cut at all, not when the "chad" was still hanging on for dear life (and removable if you poke at it).

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17 Jan 2015
08:34:36pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Hi Everyone;

@ NoernbergStamps;

I believe you are partially correct. If there is a visible 'dent' that will not come out
with gentle persuasion, then it is a blind perf. If it is removable with gentle help,
it is a 'hanging' perf. When there is no hole or dent of one then it is a missing perf
most likely a broken perf pin.

If blocks with hanging perfs are separated into singles, they can be usually re-
moved, but please use extreme care to avoid making the problem worse.

If I'm mistaken about the use of the two terms, someone with more in-depth know-
ledge please correct me, so I do not pass on bum skinny to others. Thank you in
advance.

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17 Jan 2015
09:47:13pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

I can't speak to other issues but when it comes to the Nova Scotia issues, these blind perfs cannot be poked out without causing damage to the stamp. Unless perhaps by using a needle but even then ... in all the blocks and pairs of Nova Scotia issues with these (which are quite common occurrences in my experience), what appears to the naked eye as simply a perf that didn't get punched through, is almost imperf and attempting to "create" a perf would only cause damage. You can see that in singles where it appears to be an elongated perf, chances are beside it will be what appears to be a pulled perf. An example is seen in the post on the New Brunswick stamp on the left side - a quick glance at that stamp appears that it was torn away from the one beside it which would indicate a blind perf - although I'm no expert on this issue (and I admit only viewing that post on my phone so I could most likely be wrong on that one) - I only know what I've seen in my own Nova Scotia cent issues. An issue with the Nova Scotia cent issues was the multiple printings - I think - which caused the perforations to be incomplete. I'd appreciate any information to correct me or clarify the issue in regards to the Nova Scotia cent issues.

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18 Jan 2015
11:36:15am
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Using the definitions from "Fundamentals of Philately", a summary of the definitions relating to the various states of perforation follows:

Blind Perforation: Usually, an indentation in, as opposed to a hole punched out of, the paper.

Clean-Cut Perforation: The punched-out paper has been entirely removed, leaving sharply defined edges.

Intermediate Perforation: The discs of paper neither have been punched out entirely nor remain attached to the edges of what should be holes. A state of perforation between "clean-cut" and "rough".

Interrupted Perforation: Perforation with holes missing. The gaps in the rows of holes result from the removal at regular intervals of pins from the pin plate.

Rough Perforation: The paper has not been removed from the edges of some or many of what should be peforation holes.

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18 Jan 2015
11:38:41am
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

I would call your example "rough perforations".

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19 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Perhaps it should be called a defective stamp or block and a properly perforated example requested ?

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25 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

the MBPC auction notes offer a point scale to estimate the degree or level of perforation from imperf to 100% ...

for specialists, it allows more precise descriptions of singles, blocks, booklet panes.

positional perforation, and band descriptions are also noted.

do visit, the international membership via download.

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26 Jan 2015
06:48:52am
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

And people wondered why Florida had so many problems with the "hanging" chads.

It's all too clear, now. chortle chortle

I also found this:

Blind Perforations - an impression made by perforating pins in a place where perforations were intended, but from which chads were not removed. These interesting varieties are not imperforate stamps. Blind perforations are considered freaks, not errors.

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26 Jan 2015
01:35:59pm
re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

" Blind perforations are considered freaks, not errors."


Does that statement imply that "blind people" are also freaks. If so I hope there are no blind members reading the DB today. Rolling On The Floor Laughing
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26 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Oh Mike, I do need to ask...if they are blind, how can they be reading this? Laughing

I mean no harm to anybody. Dianne had MD and it was getting worse as she was aging although she didn't want anybody to know about it. She wasn't blind as a bat, bats are not blind as they have sharper senses and sonar.

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26 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Just a kind reminder that there are several SOR members who are legally blind or low vision.

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26 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

And a kind reminder that I'm sure they aren't sitting around crying in their beer over it. I also have vision problems, but I'm not complaining about it.
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26 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Indeed Mike - I just felt the need to put that out there.

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26 Jan 2015
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We have a fellow in our local club who looks at everything through a magnifying glass. Despite his vision problems, he is still super enthusiastic about stamps. What an amazing fellow - he's sure not a quitter! He reminds me to think about people's capabilities, NOT their disabilities!

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27 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Actually, I do believe they make a better stamper as they pay more attention to details. I admire them. And if I offended anybody, I really didn't mean to.

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27 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

I think we have exhausted this topic and gone onto something else. These are interesting comments and you might want to start a separate discussion on disabilities and hobbies in the off topic area.

Let's (please) close this thread.

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13 Jan 2015
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Is there a term for perforations where you still see the "chad" (if you will) in the perf slot? Here's an illustration from a larger block I have. I'm talking about the "white perfs" in several areas.

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13 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

thanks for bringing up the "chad" phrase. All of us Floridians are well aware of the "hanging chads". Rolling On The Floor Laughing

If they are "blind" perfs, why don't they carry White Canes so that people will know they have a disability?
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Does the blind perf increase or decrease the value of the block of stamps?

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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

As a collector of Nova Scotia material, I can say I've come across these blind perfs quite frequently and as mentioned Don't Punch Out the Perfs. I can't speak from a monetary perspective but from a collector's perspective, I covet these types of blocks when found in my Maritime Province collections.

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15 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

In the clinical world "blind" is becoming a non-PC term. Often we use "masked" instead.
A "masked perf" would obviously lead to some good old fashioned fun

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15 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Here's an interesting one:

The USPS got "fancy" by using star shaped perfs. Notice anything unusual here?

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15 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

People who are blind are now "masked"? Really? Is a bank robber who covers his face a masked perp?

Purrfin2 asked,

"Does the blind perf increase or decrease the value of the block of stamps?"

. My guess is that such stamps are generally discounted a bit by dealers, but not by enough to make a real difference, especially with classic stamps.

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15 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

"The USPS got "fancy" by using star shaped perfs. Notice anything unusual here?"



Obviously, looking at that particular pane, there's a star missing. Oh, and there's a star perf missing too.

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15 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

After so many decades of experience, the USPS is still experiencing teething problems.

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15 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Perhaps "Perforation Challenged"? Or is that the term for imperforate?

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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

aren't gums and teeth related?

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17 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Hi Peter! Hi folks! Quick question...

Do you think these really count as blind perfs, per se? I thought blind perfs were when there was no hole or cut at all, not when the "chad" was still hanging on for dear life (and removable if you poke at it).

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17 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Hi Everyone;

@ NoernbergStamps;

I believe you are partially correct. If there is a visible 'dent' that will not come out
with gentle persuasion, then it is a blind perf. If it is removable with gentle help,
it is a 'hanging' perf. When there is no hole or dent of one then it is a missing perf
most likely a broken perf pin.

If blocks with hanging perfs are separated into singles, they can be usually re-
moved, but please use extreme care to avoid making the problem worse.

If I'm mistaken about the use of the two terms, someone with more in-depth know-
ledge please correct me, so I do not pass on bum skinny to others. Thank you in
advance.

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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

I can't speak to other issues but when it comes to the Nova Scotia issues, these blind perfs cannot be poked out without causing damage to the stamp. Unless perhaps by using a needle but even then ... in all the blocks and pairs of Nova Scotia issues with these (which are quite common occurrences in my experience), what appears to the naked eye as simply a perf that didn't get punched through, is almost imperf and attempting to "create" a perf would only cause damage. You can see that in singles where it appears to be an elongated perf, chances are beside it will be what appears to be a pulled perf. An example is seen in the post on the New Brunswick stamp on the left side - a quick glance at that stamp appears that it was torn away from the one beside it which would indicate a blind perf - although I'm no expert on this issue (and I admit only viewing that post on my phone so I could most likely be wrong on that one) - I only know what I've seen in my own Nova Scotia cent issues. An issue with the Nova Scotia cent issues was the multiple printings - I think - which caused the perforations to be incomplete. I'd appreciate any information to correct me or clarify the issue in regards to the Nova Scotia cent issues.

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18 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Using the definitions from "Fundamentals of Philately", a summary of the definitions relating to the various states of perforation follows:

Blind Perforation: Usually, an indentation in, as opposed to a hole punched out of, the paper.

Clean-Cut Perforation: The punched-out paper has been entirely removed, leaving sharply defined edges.

Intermediate Perforation: The discs of paper neither have been punched out entirely nor remain attached to the edges of what should be holes. A state of perforation between "clean-cut" and "rough".

Interrupted Perforation: Perforation with holes missing. The gaps in the rows of holes result from the removal at regular intervals of pins from the pin plate.

Rough Perforation: The paper has not been removed from the edges of some or many of what should be peforation holes.

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18 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

I would call your example "rough perforations".

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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Perhaps it should be called a defective stamp or block and a properly perforated example requested ?

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25 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

the MBPC auction notes offer a point scale to estimate the degree or level of perforation from imperf to 100% ...

for specialists, it allows more precise descriptions of singles, blocks, booklet panes.

positional perforation, and band descriptions are also noted.

do visit, the international membership via download.

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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

And people wondered why Florida had so many problems with the "hanging" chads.

It's all too clear, now. chortle chortle

I also found this:

Blind Perforations - an impression made by perforating pins in a place where perforations were intended, but from which chads were not removed. These interesting varieties are not imperforate stamps. Blind perforations are considered freaks, not errors.

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26 Jan 2015
01:35:59pm

re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

" Blind perforations are considered freaks, not errors."


Does that statement imply that "blind people" are also freaks. If so I hope there are no blind members reading the DB today. Rolling On The Floor Laughing
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26 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Oh Mike, I do need to ask...if they are blind, how can they be reading this? Laughing

I mean no harm to anybody. Dianne had MD and it was getting worse as she was aging although she didn't want anybody to know about it. She wasn't blind as a bat, bats are not blind as they have sharper senses and sonar.

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26 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Just a kind reminder that there are several SOR members who are legally blind or low vision.

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26 Jan 2015
09:36:09pm

re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

And a kind reminder that I'm sure they aren't sitting around crying in their beer over it. I also have vision problems, but I'm not complaining about it.
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Indeed Mike - I just felt the need to put that out there.

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26 Jan 2015
11:58:22pm

re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

We have a fellow in our local club who looks at everything through a magnifying glass. Despite his vision problems, he is still super enthusiastic about stamps. What an amazing fellow - he's sure not a quitter! He reminds me to think about people's capabilities, NOT their disabilities!

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27 Jan 2015
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re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

Actually, I do believe they make a better stamper as they pay more attention to details. I admire them. And if I offended anybody, I really didn't mean to.

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27 Jan 2015
05:27:30pm

re: What do you call perfs that are not fully perfed? Reference: "blind perfs", "chads" and "partial perfs"

I think we have exhausted this topic and gone onto something else. These are interesting comments and you might want to start a separate discussion on disabilities and hobbies in the off topic area.

Let's (please) close this thread.

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