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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
08:16:34am
Can anyone help me identify what these stamps are? Are they Cinderellas, labels, actual postage stamps used for emergency purposes as noted?

The scan doesn't show it well but each stamp is fully perforated and the whole pane is gummed.

Thanks for any information you might have.

Peter

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11 Jan 2015
08:28:44am
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SG:197-211;1887 Jubilee issue.England.Ignore what's written underneath.

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11 Jan 2015
08:36:37am
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

The design is based on that set, but the color is not correct. That's what leads me to suspect these purple stamps are either special issues or Cinderellas. Also, the perfs include the bottom label with the design.

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11 Jan 2015
08:55:24am
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Hi Peter,

I've not seen these before but I'd guess they're from the time of the 1971 UK postal strike when lots of local services sprang up to delivery mail (and many more people just printed stamps for collectors).

I'm sure londonbus1 will be able to tell us.Happy

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11 Jan 2015
10:46:56am
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In 1971, postal workers in Great Britain went out on strike over a pay demand. The strike began on the 20th January and lasted for seven weeks, finally ending with an agreement on Thursday 4 March. After voting over the weekend, the strikers returned to work on Monday 8th March 1971.

A wide range of officially licenced and unlicenced private posts operated during the strike to fill the gap left by the withdrawal of official postal services. Most of these companies only operated a local commercial service but some provided national and international deliveries, while others were set up by philatelic groups to provide material for stamp collectors.

The strike also overlapped with the introduction of the new Decimal Currency on the 15th February 1971.

Here's a relevant image I've just taken off eBay:

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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
12:30:03pm
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Thanks for the info, Nigel and Ningpo! So this was valid for postage during the strike? Interesting. I like the design.

Any thoughts as to valuation?

Peter

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11 Jan 2015
01:34:00pm
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Hi Everyone;

The stamps on-cover appear perfed, but the small sheet appears to be rouletted. Am I
correct or has my vision failed me once again.

Thank you for showing us the scans, I have never seen any of these, are they expen-
sive to collect?

Keep on finding Easter eggs....
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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
02:06:53pm
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The small sheet I posted is also perfed. I don't have a value of this sheet; it was among the goodies I am uncovering from an inheritance. My Godfather died in August and I received all his stamps. He didn't catalogue anything and was very eclectic in his tastes.

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11 Jan 2015
02:31:35pm
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Must be a trick of the light or maybe the scan is off kilter, because it looks rouletted to me also. However, as I have cataract surgery scheduled for tomorrow, could be my old, faulty eyes also, Ken. Big Grin

I cropped a corner of the image and enlarged it.

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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
02:40:18pm
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

My apologies; you are correct. It is rouletted. I had it on a white Scott page and didn't look carefully after scanning.

Peter

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11 Jan 2015
03:14:19pm
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Today I found a full sheet of these on the UK version of a certain auction site, with a starting price of £25.

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11 Jan 2015
03:33:40pm
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Here's another type, with a close up following. Unfortunately this is the best quality image I could get.

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Finally, this a rather unusual scouting themed international 'label'. Rather attractive I think. This and other values and colours of this type are available from a seller in the States:


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There are many, many types of strike mail stamps, including used on cover:


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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
05:39:48pm
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Ye gods, yet another area of collecting opening up!

Those are great items; thanks for sharing them.

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03 Sep 2016
08:43:35am
re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

I've just bought this curiosity, related to the 1971 Strike Mail in the UK:


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According to one online source:


"To try to break the strike, the postal monopoly was suspended. Any company who wanted to "run" a service got a licence. A few actually offered a service (some in London couriered mail to the continent where they were posted), although many were purely philatelic."



Randall seems to have extended this strike mail service internationally. What puzzles me is the overprinted Malawi stamp, which has both the local currency 30t (Tambala) and the British 3/- (Shilling) postal rates.

This seems to suggest that there was some approval by the Malawi postal authorities to co-operate with licenced operators. However, I can't find if this was a specially produced stamp, or if it was an overprinted regular postage stamp?

As for the blue Randall label; this is denominated in the new decimal currency '10 pence'. The new currency came in on 15th February 1971. So we have the Malawi stamp 'overprinted ?' 3/- (the old currency) and the Randall label at the new 10p currency.

I'm just guessing that the S.A.D.S label might refer to Special Air Delivery Service. Perhaps someone knows for sure.

Although this is obviously philatelic, it is one of the more interesting strike mail offerings.


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03 Sep 2016
12:14:17pm
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That's a nice Malawi cover.Happy

The surcharged stamp is SG 369 from 8th February 1971. It was the only value surcharged like this.

The SG catalogue says:

"No. 369 was issued for use on letters carried by an emergency airmail service from Malawi to Great Britain during the British postal strike.

The fee of 30t. was to cover the charge for delivery by a private service, and ordinary stamps to pay the normal airmail fee had to be affixed as well.

The strike ended on 8 March, when private delivery services were withdrawn."

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malcolm197

28 Sep 2016
01:25:04am
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A majority of these items are philatelic contrived even though a genuine usage.

I don't think we should knock them for this, but salute the ingenuity and enterprise of those who organised these "services" at short notice and in difficult times. I was working in London at the time of the strike (in an office) and was unaware that these services were available. Some judicious marketing could have meant more commercial use but frankly I don't think that it was the purpose.

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11 Jan 2015
08:16:34am

Can anyone help me identify what these stamps are? Are they Cinderellas, labels, actual postage stamps used for emergency purposes as noted?

The scan doesn't show it well but each stamp is fully perforated and the whole pane is gummed.

Thanks for any information you might have.

Peter

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11 Jan 2015
08:28:44am

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

SG:197-211;1887 Jubilee issue.England.Ignore what's written underneath.

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11 Jan 2015
08:36:37am

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

The design is based on that set, but the color is not correct. That's what leads me to suspect these purple stamps are either special issues or Cinderellas. Also, the perfs include the bottom label with the design.

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11 Jan 2015
08:55:24am

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Hi Peter,

I've not seen these before but I'd guess they're from the time of the 1971 UK postal strike when lots of local services sprang up to delivery mail (and many more people just printed stamps for collectors).

I'm sure londonbus1 will be able to tell us.Happy

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Ningpo

11 Jan 2015
10:46:56am

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

In 1971, postal workers in Great Britain went out on strike over a pay demand. The strike began on the 20th January and lasted for seven weeks, finally ending with an agreement on Thursday 4 March. After voting over the weekend, the strikers returned to work on Monday 8th March 1971.

A wide range of officially licenced and unlicenced private posts operated during the strike to fill the gap left by the withdrawal of official postal services. Most of these companies only operated a local commercial service but some provided national and international deliveries, while others were set up by philatelic groups to provide material for stamp collectors.

The strike also overlapped with the introduction of the new Decimal Currency on the 15th February 1971.

Here's a relevant image I've just taken off eBay:

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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
12:30:03pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Thanks for the info, Nigel and Ningpo! So this was valid for postage during the strike? Interesting. I like the design.

Any thoughts as to valuation?

Peter

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11 Jan 2015
01:34:00pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Hi Everyone;

The stamps on-cover appear perfed, but the small sheet appears to be rouletted. Am I
correct or has my vision failed me once again.

Thank you for showing us the scans, I have never seen any of these, are they expen-
sive to collect?

Keep on finding Easter eggs....
TuskenRaider

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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
02:06:53pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

The small sheet I posted is also perfed. I don't have a value of this sheet; it was among the goodies I am uncovering from an inheritance. My Godfather died in August and I received all his stamps. He didn't catalogue anything and was very eclectic in his tastes.

Peter

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11 Jan 2015
02:31:35pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Must be a trick of the light or maybe the scan is off kilter, because it looks rouletted to me also. However, as I have cataract surgery scheduled for tomorrow, could be my old, faulty eyes also, Ken. Big Grin

I cropped a corner of the image and enlarged it.

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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
02:40:18pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

My apologies; you are correct. It is rouletted. I had it on a white Scott page and didn't look carefully after scanning.

Peter

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11 Jan 2015
03:14:19pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Today I found a full sheet of these on the UK version of a certain auction site, with a starting price of £25.

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Ningpo

11 Jan 2015
03:33:40pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Here's another type, with a close up following. Unfortunately this is the best quality image I could get.

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Finally, this a rather unusual scouting themed international 'label'. Rather attractive I think. This and other values and colours of this type are available from a seller in the States:


Image Not Found


There are many, many types of strike mail stamps, including used on cover:


Image Not Found


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cocollectibles

11 Jan 2015
05:39:48pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

Ye gods, yet another area of collecting opening up!

Those are great items; thanks for sharing them.

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03 Sep 2016
08:43:35am

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

I've just bought this curiosity, related to the 1971 Strike Mail in the UK:


Image Not Found

According to one online source:


"To try to break the strike, the postal monopoly was suspended. Any company who wanted to "run" a service got a licence. A few actually offered a service (some in London couriered mail to the continent where they were posted), although many were purely philatelic."



Randall seems to have extended this strike mail service internationally. What puzzles me is the overprinted Malawi stamp, which has both the local currency 30t (Tambala) and the British 3/- (Shilling) postal rates.

This seems to suggest that there was some approval by the Malawi postal authorities to co-operate with licenced operators. However, I can't find if this was a specially produced stamp, or if it was an overprinted regular postage stamp?

As for the blue Randall label; this is denominated in the new decimal currency '10 pence'. The new currency came in on 15th February 1971. So we have the Malawi stamp 'overprinted ?' 3/- (the old currency) and the Randall label at the new 10p currency.

I'm just guessing that the S.A.D.S label might refer to Special Air Delivery Service. Perhaps someone knows for sure.

Although this is obviously philatelic, it is one of the more interesting strike mail offerings.


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03 Sep 2016
12:14:17pm

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

That's a nice Malawi cover.Happy

The surcharged stamp is SG 369 from 8th February 1971. It was the only value surcharged like this.

The SG catalogue says:

"No. 369 was issued for use on letters carried by an emergency airmail service from Malawi to Great Britain during the British postal strike.

The fee of 30t. was to cover the charge for delivery by a private service, and ordinary stamps to pay the normal airmail fee had to be affixed as well.

The strike ended on 8 March, when private delivery services were withdrawn."

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malcolm197

28 Sep 2016
01:25:04am

re: Anyone able to help me identify this QV set?

A majority of these items are philatelic contrived even though a genuine usage.

I don't think we should knock them for this, but salute the ingenuity and enterprise of those who organised these "services" at short notice and in difficult times. I was working in London at the time of the strike (in an office) and was unaware that these services were available. Some judicious marketing could have meant more commercial use but frankly I don't think that it was the purpose.

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