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General Philatelic/Supplies, Literature & Software : Stamp Lift Fluid

 

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tuscany4me
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04 Sep 2012
02:33:10pm
So... for the new guy, what is wrong With "Stamp Lift Fluid?"

I am ready for a flood of opinions...

Thanks, Clayton
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musicman
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04 Sep 2012
05:25:20pm
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Nothing technically 'wrong' with it - it works fine;

it's the COST....in comparison to lighter fluid, it is VERY expensive.

And (in my opinion), lighter fluid works just as well.






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05 Sep 2012
02:13:43am
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Randy,

Thanks for the response. I appreciate it. I have been reading up on all the discussions here going back to '09 and I realized there have been MANY discussions about "soaking" and lighter fluid, but nothing ever said about "Lift Liquid," so I just assumed there was a reason no one here ever mentioned it...

Thanks, Clayton

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michael78651

05 Sep 2012
12:52:21pm
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Stamp Lift fluid is basically distilled water with a drop of dish detergent. Try a mix of 16 ounces distilled water to 1 drop of dish detergent (it will be alot cheaper than buying Stamp Lift). Mix well, but don't shake it, because you'll wind up with a bunch of bubbles. The water will act as a catalyst to help the detergent permeate the stamp/envelope/hinge paper to break down the gum and free the stamp from whatever was sticking to it.

Note, if you use Stamp Lift or the home-made version on an unused stamp, you will damage the gum on the stamp. The extent of the damage (could even be total removal of the gum) depends on how long and how much of the stamp is soaked.

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05 Sep 2012
08:11:17pm
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Michael makes a good point;

If you are using EITHER fluid for mint/unused stamps, you will harm the adhesive on the back.

And by the way, lighter fluid works well for seeing watermarks, too!



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06 Sep 2012
08:49:20am
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Isopropenol (Rubbing Alcohol ) works just as well, is cheaper than lighter fluid, slightly less volatile and available in drugstores and supermarkets. I have been using it successfully for almost fifty years.

It should be used i a well ventilated room.

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06 Sep 2012
08:56:00am

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re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Randy,

if you use Ether, you'll pass out

David

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06 Sep 2012
01:40:34pm
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

I'm with Charlie Jensen on this.

Rubbing alcohol is inexpensive and, unlike "Vaseline", really has 1,001 other uses.

John

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06 Sep 2012
04:40:31pm
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

I started using it for the Four Kings and Wildings to sort the different watermarks and find the inverts and sideways watermarks. So it was simple to try it with the US stickys and to loosen the death grip of the UK adhesives used on the Machins.
With care it works fine on the stamps with security cuts if you soak for a few minutes and then slip a #908 "Lethal" Stamp tongs tip in the center of the security cut and work slowly up and down, first on one side and then on the other.

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06 Sep 2012
09:11:40pm
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

To David;

....you lost an 'eye', I believe....


Charlie,

...cheaper than lighter fluid? Really?! That must be really cheap; a can of lighter fluid is under 2 bucks!





Randy

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07 Sep 2012
03:09:19am
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Eva just bought me a 16 fluid ounce bottle from the supermarket that cost $0.89.
I use quite a bit especially as I have a new bunch of Machins to work on.

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07 Sep 2012
05:02:09am

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Randy, that stuff's even more dangerous than I thought

Ceyeclops

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08 Sep 2012
09:47:47am
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

...and I'm told, David, it can become addictive as well.....**sniff**





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PeterG
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08 Sep 2012
03:11:56pm
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Don´t **sniff** too much of it, your brain will turn liquid and run out of your nose and ears

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michael78651

09 Sep 2012
02:12:19am
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Hmm, and I always thought that was allergies....

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Logistical1
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09 Sep 2012
03:19:37pm
re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Other then the stamp lift product being more expensive and not any more effective then other products there is nothing wrong with using it.

I found a great way to loosen stamps that are even glued to the paper. I found a bottle of a product laying around the house called Basic H. It was given to me by a freind that sold Shaklee products a few years back. A couple drops in my soaking tray with some warm water and the stamps floated right off.

I am not sure if the product is any different then a drop or two of dish soap but I was impressed. It sure beats cooking the glued stamps to get them off the paper.

I am going to try it out of some self adhesives and will post the results.

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09 Sep 2012
09:07:52pm
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...I do know that Basic H is PH-neutral....

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tuscany4me

04 Sep 2012
02:33:10pm

So... for the new guy, what is wrong With "Stamp Lift Fluid?"

I am ready for a flood of opinions...

Thanks, Clayton

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APS #213005
04 Sep 2012
05:25:20pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Nothing technically 'wrong' with it - it works fine;

it's the COST....in comparison to lighter fluid, it is VERY expensive.

And (in my opinion), lighter fluid works just as well.






Randy

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tuscany4me

05 Sep 2012
02:13:43am

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Randy,

Thanks for the response. I appreciate it. I have been reading up on all the discussions here going back to '09 and I realized there have been MANY discussions about "soaking" and lighter fluid, but nothing ever said about "Lift Liquid," so I just assumed there was a reason no one here ever mentioned it...

Thanks, Clayton

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michael78651

05 Sep 2012
12:52:21pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Stamp Lift fluid is basically distilled water with a drop of dish detergent. Try a mix of 16 ounces distilled water to 1 drop of dish detergent (it will be alot cheaper than buying Stamp Lift). Mix well, but don't shake it, because you'll wind up with a bunch of bubbles. The water will act as a catalyst to help the detergent permeate the stamp/envelope/hinge paper to break down the gum and free the stamp from whatever was sticking to it.

Note, if you use Stamp Lift or the home-made version on an unused stamp, you will damage the gum on the stamp. The extent of the damage (could even be total removal of the gum) depends on how long and how much of the stamp is soaked.

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APS #213005
05 Sep 2012
08:11:17pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Michael makes a good point;

If you are using EITHER fluid for mint/unused stamps, you will harm the adhesive on the back.

And by the way, lighter fluid works well for seeing watermarks, too!



Randy

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06 Sep 2012
08:49:20am

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Isopropenol (Rubbing Alcohol ) works just as well, is cheaper than lighter fluid, slightly less volatile and available in drugstores and supermarkets. I have been using it successfully for almost fifty years.

It should be used i a well ventilated room.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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amsd

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06 Sep 2012
08:56:00am

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re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Randy,

if you use Ether, you'll pass out

David

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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
06 Sep 2012
01:40:34pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

I'm with Charlie Jensen on this.

Rubbing alcohol is inexpensive and, unlike "Vaseline", really has 1,001 other uses.

John

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"Much happiness is overlooked because it doesn't cost anything. "

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
06 Sep 2012
04:40:31pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

I started using it for the Four Kings and Wildings to sort the different watermarks and find the inverts and sideways watermarks. So it was simple to try it with the US stickys and to loosen the death grip of the UK adhesives used on the Machins.
With care it works fine on the stamps with security cuts if you soak for a few minutes and then slip a #908 "Lethal" Stamp tongs tip in the center of the security cut and work slowly up and down, first on one side and then on the other.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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APS #213005
06 Sep 2012
09:11:40pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

To David;

....you lost an 'eye', I believe....


Charlie,

...cheaper than lighter fluid? Really?! That must be really cheap; a can of lighter fluid is under 2 bucks!





Randy

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07 Sep 2012
03:09:19am

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Eva just bought me a 16 fluid ounce bottle from the supermarket that cost $0.89.
I use quite a bit especially as I have a new bunch of Machins to work on.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
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amsd

Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
07 Sep 2012
05:02:09am

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re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Randy, that stuff's even more dangerous than I thought

Ceyeclops

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APS #213005
08 Sep 2012
09:47:47am

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

...and I'm told, David, it can become addictive as well.....**sniff**





Randy

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PeterG

08 Sep 2012
03:11:56pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Don´t **sniff** too much of it, your brain will turn liquid and run out of your nose and ears

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michael78651

09 Sep 2012
02:12:19am

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Hmm, and I always thought that was allergies....

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Logistical1

09 Sep 2012
03:19:37pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

Other then the stamp lift product being more expensive and not any more effective then other products there is nothing wrong with using it.

I found a great way to loosen stamps that are even glued to the paper. I found a bottle of a product laying around the house called Basic H. It was given to me by a freind that sold Shaklee products a few years back. A couple drops in my soaking tray with some warm water and the stamps floated right off.

I am not sure if the product is any different then a drop or two of dish soap but I was impressed. It sure beats cooking the glued stamps to get them off the paper.

I am going to try it out of some self adhesives and will post the results.

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APS #213005
09 Sep 2012
09:07:52pm

re: Stamp Lift Fluid

...I do know that Basic H is PH-neutral....

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